Project 2G GSX
 

I have lurked here for some time, but never really got around to posting. I've been out of the car game for some time now and finally feel that it is time to finish my 2G. I bought this from Matt D. some time ago, but with 70+hrs/week work and full load finishing up my bachelors/certs I just lost interest. Over the last month I have accumulated quite a few parts to get this finished. Below is the list so far.

1997 Eclipse GSX

Block:
- 2.0L MAP 6-bolt
- Eagle Rods
- Ross Pistons
- MAP Ultimate H11 Headstuds
- Fel-Pro PermaTorqueMLS Head gasket
- Gates Timing Belt
- ACL Rod Bearings
- ACL Main Bearings

Head:
- 1G MAP Stage 3 Cylinder Head
- Ferrea Valve Guides
- Ferrea valve seals
- GSC Springs, Retainers, seats
- MAP +1mm Nitride Valves
- HKS 280 Cams

Fuel:
- FIC 1680cc BlueMAX High Impedence Injectors
- Walbro 255 Fuel pump
- AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
- Turbosmart FPR Liquid Fill Gauge
- AEM Fuel Rail

Intake/Exhaust/Turbo:
- ETS 10.5" Race Intercooler Kit
- PTE GT3561 turbo
- Magnus Race Intake Manifold
- DNP Turbo Manifold
- Apexi turbo-back
- Accufab F75 5.0L 75mm Throttle Body
- Tial 44mm Wastegate
- Tial Q Blow Off Valve
- MAP 44mm O2 Housing
- Greddy Trust Boost Controller
- MAP 3" Intake/filter

Drivetrain:
- TRE rebuilt transmission
- Competition Clutch Stage 4
- ACT Lightweight Flywheel
- Prothane Motor Mount Inserts
- Techna-Fit Clutch Line
- Prothane Motor Mount Inserts

Electronics:
- AEM AIT Sensor
- AEM 5-Bar MAP
- Eprom ECU w/DSMLink V3
- GM 3" MAF Sensor
- Prosport Peak/Hold Boost Guage
- Prosport Peak/Hold Oil Pressure Gauge
- Prosport Peak/Hold Wideband Guage

Suspension/Wheels:
- Koni 5-way adjustable shocks
- H&R race springs
- ADR 17x7 wheels

Misc:
- Mishimoto Aluminum Radiator
- Mishimoto 12” Electric Fan
- Taylor Battery Relocation kit


I guess now I am looking for advice. What else do I need or should get? I am trying to do it right the first time so I don't run into problems down the road. My goal has always been 600AWHP, but will be happy with whatever this produces.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Sounds like a badass setup. Post some pics of both your cars I've heard mixed feelings about the 330xi

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

The 330xi is a great daily driver for this state. I've had the car for about 30,000 miles now with no real complaints. I've done the basic maintenance and a few larger things, but nothing that would stop me from buying another one.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

I'd skip the cam gears. If I remember correctly the HKS cams are designed to be installed straight up, maybe I'm wrong though.

If you can find a buyer for the EMS, I'd recommend ECMLink instead, it's a lot easier to tune and use.

Good luck with your project!

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

It's going to run like shit with the FIC 1650s and an AEM EMS.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

What do you recommend then?

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Maybe the newer high-z FIC 1680's? I have them on my evoX and they are great!

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

I am waiting to hear back from Shane, but it sounds like 1680's will be the way to go. I am glad that he pointed that out before I ordered them. Is there anything else that I should consider/change thats on my parts to get list?

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

I wouldn't bother with the fuel rail unless you need it to fit whatever injectors you plan on running (I know guys that use the Ford 1600's have to use an AEM or similar rail for them to fit).

Use that money for a Fel-Pro Permatorque head gasket :)

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

I already have a fuel rail. I think I just need the following +/- some.

Parts that I need:
- Gates Timing Belt
- AEM 5-Bar MAP
- AEM Wideband
- BBK 5.0L 75mm Throttle Body
- Mitsu Head Gasket
- Fuel Pressure regulator
- FIC 1680cc Injectors
- Coil-On-Plug Setup

I am open to suggestions though.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Do you have any kind of CDI box for the COP setup? COP may be something you can go without if you need to save some money.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Ryan,

Just stick with a 1g throttle body. As somebody who has used BBK parts on things they are SUPPOSED to go on, they suck. They are cheap and they work, but there are by far better options. try http://www.throttlebodys.com/1G%20Turbo%20TBs.htm or go for the 1g non turbo throttle body.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Currently, I don't have anything for the ignition. So to answer your question, as of now I do not have CDI or COP.

Hey John, I have the Magnus race manifold with the 75mm 5.0 flange on it.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Then look for a better throttle body than BBK. Precision Racing Products or something like that has one. There are others as well. Not a fan of bbk at all, as you can tell.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

The stock DSM ignition system is pretty decent. I wouldn't go to COP without adding some sort of ignition amplifier. Unless you're having an issue with weak spark, just stick with the stock ignition system and use that money elsewhere.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Yeah, the COP was last on the list I guess. I will take it off the list for now and see what happens after I finally get it all together and tuned.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Forgot about accufab. One of the problems with the BBK was people were breaking the shaft on it. http://www.accufabracing.com/throttle_bodies.htm

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

I found a couple Accufab TB's that seem to be the same thing as BBK. They are about the same price as well.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

I also saw the same issues with the accufab on the poopra boards. Would a Q45 work?

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

I believe the flange is different for the Q45. Unfortunately the manifold I got was local and had the 75mm flange on it already.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

After talking with Shane, I think I am going to switch to ECMLink. I have a few questions though. What all do I need to run ECMLink versus AEM EMS? I'm guess I won't need my AEM AIT sensor anymore. Do I still need a 5-bar MAP or just get a 3-3.5" GM MAF? Trying to get everything together and ordered. I don't have the OEM ECU. Which one would I need to get?

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Why a GM MAF? Why not just stick with a Mitsu one? 2g and Evo 8 MAS's go a long way. I personally wouldn't run a GM MAF unless I had no other choice, not worth the hastle in my opinion.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Or you could keep the IAT and MAP sensors and run speed density with ECMLink.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

x2. Keep the iat and map sensor and just run speed density with it. I know you used to always want a '95 eprom ecu for ECMLink. I'm not sure if you can use other years that aren't eproms any more though.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

This is great news. I wasn't sure if that was an option with ECMLink. Makes me feel a little more comfortable that I would only need to give up the AEM EMS versus everything that I already have.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

And you'll be a couple hundred dollars ahead after selling the AEM and getting ECMLink.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Even better, then I can spend it elsewhere.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Added ECMLink to my list of parts to get. What should I run for injectors?

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Lots of people like the FIC 1680 high-Z injectors for E85. My FIC 1350's aren't bad, but a friend with a similar setup to mine has FIC 1450's and hates them.

Don't get PTE 1200's if you're running E85 either. There have been about a million of them to fail, some people say they are not compatible with E85, others have run them with no issues. I wouldn't take the chance on a vehicle of mine.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Cool, thanks for the info. Shane also recommended those injectors. Sounds like people have really liked them.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Updated my parts list. Getting a little closer to done.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Very nice and long mod list! We need moar pictures!

AEM widebands have a very easy to read display and are easy to log in dsmlink.

Also depending on how much power you're looking to make a boost a pump is an easy option to make more power on a single pump and not do anything crazy.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Thanks Brad, I was thinking about going with the AEM wideband. As far as the fuel goes, I am not really sure on what kind of power I will be making. I'm guessing somewhere around 500 give or take some.

I'll post up some pictures soon! I really don't have many right now to be honest. lol

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Just finally registered and insured the car last week. I am hoping to have it on the road within the next couple of weeks. Such a good feeling to finally get to this point! Now I am curious as to what kind of numbers I will pull.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Winning!

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Well, the car has been done for about a month or two now. Here were the final build parts. The car is a complete blast to drive!

Block:
- 2.0L MAP 6-bolt
- Eagle Rods
- Ross Pistons
- MAP Ultimate H11 Headstuds
- Fel-Pro PermaTorqueMLS Head gasket
- Gates Timing Belt
- ACL Rod Bearings
- ACL Main Bearings

Head:
- 1G MAP Stage 3 Cylinder Head
- Ferrea Valve Guides
- Ferrea valve seals
- GSC Springs, Retainers, seats
- MAP +1mm Nitride Valves
- HKS 280 Cams

Fuel:
- FIC 1680cc BlueMAX High Impedence Injectors
- Walbro 400 Fuel pump
- Fuel Labs Fuel Pressure Regulator
- Turbosmart FPR Liquid Fill Gauge
- AEM Fuel Rail
- MAP Filter to rail kit

Intake/Exhaust/Turbo:
- ETS 10.5" Race Intercooler Kit
- PTE GT3561 turbo
- Magnus Race Intake Manifold
- DNP Turbo Manifold
- Apexi turbo-back
- Accufab F75 5.0L 75mm Throttle Body
- Tial 44mm Wastegate
- Tial Q Blow Off Valve
- MAP 44mm O2 Housing
- Hallman Boost Controller
- MAP 3" Intake/filter

Drivetrain:
- TRE rebuilt transmission
- Competition Clutch Stage 4
- ACT Lightweight Flywheel
- Prothane Motor Mount Inserts
- Techna-Fit Clutch Line
- Prothane Motor Mount Inserts

Electronics:
- AEM AIT Sensor
- AEM 5-Bar MAP
- Eprom ECU w/DSMLink V3
- GM 3" MAF Sensor
- Prosport Peak/Hold Boost Guage
- Prosport Peak/Hold Oil Pressure Gauge
- Innovate Wideband Guage

Suspension/Wheels:
- Koni 5-way adjustable shocks
- H&R race springs
- ADR 17x7 wheels

Misc:
- Mishimoto Aluminum Radiator
- Mishimoto 12” Electric Fan
- Taylor Battery Relocation kit

Filling up for the first time:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...ettingCorn.jpg

Engine bay mostly done:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26.../EngineBay.jpg

Dyno:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...F108486108.jpg

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Good to see another high HP 2g. Looking very good.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

I like the way it keeps making power with RPM.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Nicely done. Can you link me to these High-Z 1680 injectors? I've never heard of them.

Re: Project 2G GSX
 

Sure, np.

http://www.maperformance.com/fic-168...226-1680h.html