Setting up a evo's suspension
 

For some autoX and hopefully one road course at BIR proving grounds next year on a evo ix, but something street friendly since I do drive the car every day, only about 4/5 miles to work round trip though :lol:... Just looking for some insight on a little list i've been thinking of..
Already have-
Blisten struts
Works ride springs
Ferodo DS2500 pads

Plan on getting over winter-
New Ferodo DS2500 pads
Motol brake fluid
Rotorpro blanks? Other suggestions on a nice street/light track pad/rotor set on stock brembo's
Stainless steel brake/clutch lines
Rebuilding exedy twin hd(I know not suspension, but getting done over winter)
Rear diff bushings
Set of Hankook RS-3's on stock IX rims... Or a set of advan RS 18x9 if funds are avaiable for the wheels


Any other sugestions would be nice and helpful for me. Of course trying to get the most seat time I can next summer since I just got the car 6/2012

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Mod the rear diff.

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^ I forgot to mention when I do the clutch I am planning on the rear diff mod. Thanks!

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Considered two piece rotors?

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No I haven't, I can look into them and see how I feel after reading up on them. Any suggestions on a certin two piece set up?

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Brake ducting helps if you do a lot track days, but if you just do one a year you probably don't need it. Stiff front motor mount helps a little, I wouldn't touch the other ones. Depending on what you do for rear diff bushings, they might make your daily driving a little less enjoyable. You really don't have to much to the Evo. We run my wife's Evo at BIR and Road America a bunch of times each Summer and just have the bilsteins, GT Worx springs, brake pads, Whiteline roll center kit, and brake ducting. Rear diff is still stock, stock sway bars. We run the stock front camber bolts in the 2 degree position also.

Maybe do the Whiteline roll center kit when you do the clutch.

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Girodisc is popular.

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Thanks for the info Shane! I will look into the white line roll kit, what brake duct's are you using? Ive read info on guys getting porshe ducts and making them work on evo's brembos.

After some searching on evom, Since I daily the car plan on some autoX probably once a month or every other month and the road course MAYBE/HOPEFULLY at proving grounds or another small novice day, since ive never done it before and would like to learn and get into it more. Heres what Im thinking just for a start maybe get more serious set up after I get a hang of it/got the driver mod down

-AMS oil Series 600 DOT 4 brake fluid

-Rotorpro Slotted or maybe blank rotors (2 piece seems overkill for me since im just getting into it, no huge plans to road race more than once this next year)

-Techna fit SS lines

-Still going with Ferodo 2500's unless anyone suggest anything better. But after reading up they really seem like good dd/autox pads. Plus have them now and cant complaign.

I do have a solid front mount in the car, previous owner (Chuck R) installed it. My car has some good mods to it, I plan on bringing it to you sometime this winter/spring (after I do clutch) to get it retuned maybe after going over it we can chat more about the suspension/my goals and see what you think so far, unless you suggest a different time to tune it on E85. Gas tune is perfect!

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Rotorpro rotors are questionable, they aren't consistent with the quality blank they start with. Look at something like Centric Premiums (125's) instead. ATE Super Blue fluid is comparable at 1/3 the price as Amsoil's. Also check out the new Girodisc S/S orange pads or the RacingBrake 800's; they're both in the same catagory as the Ferodos you're considering. SS brake lines aren't really worth the money and have a much higher failure rate than stock lines (ask me how I know).

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We just have a homemade brake ducting kit. It has sheetmetal backing plates that bolt to the caliper and direct the air into the center of the rotors, orange high temp ducting and then some exhaust reducers from Napa ziptied to some front grill mess for the inlets.

You probably don't need brake ducting for autox though.

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Okay so cross off S.S lines, and will look into those 125's for rotors. As well as the s/s orange pads. Would you say their alright for year round driving?

As well as super blue i wanted that but didnt think it was ok to run year round?

Yeah, I wasnt planning on any ducts unless i got more serious into it. But as for now just try it and have fun is my plan

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Super blue is fine to run year round. I'm not sure if this is what you were planning, but i'd recommend having a separate set of street and track pads. That way you don't have to put up with pads that eat your rotors when they're cold and driving them on the street.

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ATE Blue is a terrific year-round fluid.

I have a set of the S/S Orange pads in my garage, I'll be able to give you more feedback on them once they're installed, but they should be acceptable for year-round DD use + autocross + light track duty.

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Awesome! Super blue it is, see i thought about having two sets, but figured a nicer high performance street will do the job for what i wanna do.

Feedback on the s/s oranges would be great! I dont plan on buying stuff till Feb/mar. Just so i can start out fresh for summer and go from there, plan on bleeding the brakes every summer since i read with race fluid it is recommended.

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ATE is good for 3 years for normal daily-driving. For street and autocross use I would bleed annually, flush every other. If you're going to be doing track days I would flush annually. It's one of the longest lasting performance fluids out there which is a good thing. Motul, for example, needs to be flushed every 6 months due to it's highly hygroscopic properties no matter usage.

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Oh very nice. Thanks for the info on that! Ate super blue is defiantly for me.

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No, I'd think it'd be more conformist of you. :)

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More conformist of me?

Sorry he helped me out and is saving me time and money down the road. Plus a good friend of mine uses super blue in his civic he tracks and likes it. Figured id give it a shot as ive not read too many ams oil but search ate super blue and can find a lot.

Still leaning towards ds2500 pads, unsure of rotors yet. Gonna get some pricing and search tonight. I just wanna do my set up once and right untill i get more serious, if i do that is.

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I don't have any experience with Ferodo pads, but for the level of seriousness it sounds like you're at, I bet multiple cheaper Hawk offerings would do the job just fine. HPS, HP+, Blue?

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eh, i'd prefer to stay away from hawk pads. Seriousness? haha just looking to set it up good for autoX and like I said hopefully try road course. other than that daily driving for me.

Looking into girodisc pads now look to be much cheaper than ferodo's

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Why do you want to stay away from hawk pads? I've raced for 24 hours on a road course on a set of Hawks. They are more than fine for autocross (you can use stock pads for autocross) and occasional track days.

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After use on srt 4 they just dont seem to really bite. Maybe their different on the evo. But i just think some of the other options may be nicer than hawks.

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which ones did you try?

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HP-S


I think I am gonna go with Centric premium rotors though, they look like a very nice quality rotor. And map's discription of them sounds great, Lastly the cotaing on the hub is a plus.

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All street pads pretty much suck.

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I've been unimpressed with everything Hawk I've tried or installed for others. Honestly, the only Hawk pads I recommend are their long-life quiet ceramic street pads.

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I have some hawk ceramic street pads in my jeep, I really dislike them. And HPS's definitely won't have much bite. Racing though, i've had pretty good experience. The only reason we've gone beyond them is because our chumpcar's brakes take a massive beating during hours of continuous racing, late braking every corner. Not really sure why, but brake temps hit probably 1500*F+ so I'm having to move up to some high tech, high dollar race pads. Of which I will admit, Hawk is not the leader.

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So after thinking about it, im gonna replace my pads when they get down (still need to inspect them) and get a set of blanks or even keep what rotors i have now if they last. And just autox this summer. Than next year get a different set of pads for road racing if i still wanna give it a shot. Fluid is still getting switched to super blue. Just gonna inspect and go from there. I really wish rotors had a stamp or something to tell what brand they are.

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I've also road raced Napa rotors (as well as Brake and Equipment cheapies) for many, many hours, gotten them very hot, and i've never had one fail. On road courses if you get them hot enough you'll start to see micro-cracks, and once the cracking reaches the outside of the rotor, it's time to replace.

When it comes to autocrossing, there is no need to dump a ton of money into the car, especially if you're just starting out. As long as everything is in a good state of repair, go out and give it a try. If you want to build your car for a certain class or to start to be competitive, then make changes at that point. The universal 'driver mod' will be your best chance at getting faster in autocrosses.

For road courses, you definitely shouldn't run stock pads.

But most likely, as long as your pads still have life, just run them until they need replacing, and then think about upgrading. I think you're on the right track, keep it cheap and simple!

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Well just a little update

Picked up a set of gyrodisc 2 piece front rotors sending to gyrodisc to get inspected / turned or rebuilt
Will be ordering a set of gyrodisc orange pads and gryodisc bailout rear rotors

Along with ate super blue fluid. Cant wait to install everything this spring!