dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 

Hey was wondering if any local guys would be willing to give me a hand with street tuning.

Im kinda lost with it. My set up is pretty basic. Just looking for some help and pointers.

Anytime this week would be awsome.

I could give you some free parts for your trouble or work something out with you.

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i have been doing a lot of reading, even bought the book listed in the ecmlink forum. this stuff is basically a foreign language!

im not asking for someone to spoon feed me. I just have absolutely no idea what im looking at or doing. I dialed in the .63 volts. checked timing.

I see why tuners get payed so well.

I just need someone to show me the ropes so Im not so scared to actually adjust and change things :/

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Post your mods/setup, your logging a wideband right?

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I'm kinda the same way, I understand it, but it's definitely not my specialty. I just bring my car to Shane at DB and have him tune it. I don't have to worry about blowing anything up and I'm getting max power out of my setup. I sometimes make little changes from there.

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I'm comfortable with speed density but have no experience with tuning maf. I would need to do a little research prior, but it wouldn't be a problem. As long as the car runs solid and is set up ok with a wideband etc. I have a nice loop by my house to do consistent identical pulls for wot tuning but this week there is road work.

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I'm off friday, i could help then if needed.

Make sure the car is boost leak tested, you have tools and fluids on hand.

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Mod list.

272 cams
adjustable cam gear
2.3
1600cc injectors(running gas and 450cc now just while I get the hang of things)
Gm maft.
V3 link
3 exhaust
all the supporting mods.
Hx35 7blade (sitting on the shelf for next summer ;) )

Basically ive just driven it around the block and adjusted maft comp sliders based on the recommendation of link.

I set the base settings to where they should be. But in all honesty im sure I may have missed a few values that I need to log.

I wish I could afford db.

Im not looking to put down max hp/torque

just want it tuned reasonable and driveable.

Next summer I plan to go balls to the walls. But this summer I just want to get the basics down. Learn to tune properly.

Thank you guys for replying btw. The ecmlink forum is pretty rough. Im not a master tuner so it feels like they look at you as if you were a 420a guy asking why you cant swap in a 4g63t :/

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Just post a thread there saying you just started the car, but they do expect you to be able to follow simple instructions and do base checks.

The other important thing there is to post up logs of what you are dealing with.

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I think that you should give the link forums another go. I have not got that demeaning vibe from that forum when I asked for help. You WILL get that attitude if you post up questions without a log, or do not have accurate/incomplete information that you are feeding them to look better. I know that sounds silly but it happens. There are a lot of really smart guys on that forum that are willing and eager to help you get a very good tune for free. You could even pay a few members there a minimal fee to remote tune your setup so you don't have to worry about anything.

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http://www.ecmtuning.com/forums/show...768#post648768

the thread I just posted up

and on tuners

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tuni...#post153427974

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I would just take $100 and get yourself on speed density. Tuning is so much easier on sd. The car will pretty much tune itself after you dial in the idle for everything but wot. As soon as I get off work I will post a link that will explain everything you will need to know in full easy to understand detail.

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I am also able to help tune in person and show you anything MAF related. Most these guys are much better with SD than I and if you go that route I'm no good but I was able to learn lots from tuning with Shane twice and tuning several other cars to run better and cleaner after builds. Just shoot me a PM if you need.

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Go on link and edit your sig to show your significant mods. (no suspension, but cams, intake, exh, turbo, fuel pump, injectors, etc)

People will need to know mods to know what they are tuning there.

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Been looking at 2 cars both running v3 on sd. Hope to pick up one of the two week of memorial day.

And after a quick read up. I'm sure I'm going to have a ton of questions also as it doesn't look any thing like v2 that in used to run.

Anyone on here able to do the online tuning if we give logs? One car is only tuned for e85 and if I go with that car I'd need to basically do a full 93oct tune. As driving from west palm beach to south carolina is going to be difficult trying to find stations with E85.

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Yeah quite a few of us can do that. It's actually pretty simple stuff once you start doing it yourself.

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thanks for the thread jack slowwhite :threadjacked:

everyone was saying how easy it is to tune with link. I don't think its easy at all.

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im really grateful for mitsustyle! ecmlink has 22 views, no comments. tuners has 1 view no comments,

you guys are a hell of a lot better, even if its useless banter, just knowing someone is reading and giving there 2 cents is pretty awesome.

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Lol. Ya I can't even get onto ecm forums. (Although I haven't tried my old username and password)
to try to read up on it.

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Oh and what youll really love is one of the cars I'm looking at and leaning towards has an hx35 also..

The other car has a Garrett 4088 dbb with a built 2.4.

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whats the housing on the hx35? I want to run 12cm (stock) hotside on mine with a twin scroll manifold and custom downpipe.

but then reality hits and I realize I cant afford any of it :P

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Bolt on with a .55 housing. Hes running a fp race manifold

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Is it running theIs it running the stock 12cm hotside? Twin scroll manifold?

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Yes for closed loop operation there is the SD VE Adjust tool. It will recommend adjustments to the VE table based on fuel trims, but there is also the MAFComp Adjust tool that uses fuel trims to calculate adjustments for the MAFComp sliders if using a MAF. With both tools it is very important to have proper global fuel settings first.

But thats just the beginning, WOT is where you spend your time tuning. To tune safely and still make power it helps having a good understanding of what A/F ratio and ignition timing should be corresponding to load and RPM and the effect ignition timing has on A/F ratio. So making adjustments to your timing table effects the A/F ratio and would likely require airflow adjustment to keep things where you want them and so on. It goes much more in depth than this. So yeah I guess its not "easy" but once you start playing around with it you'll gain more understanding of the whole thing.

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Your logging a wideband right? I dont have my laptop right now so I cant look at your logs you posted on the link forum yet.

Whats your current turbo?

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yes, I have a wideband.

one thing I noticed is that my wideband reads anywhere from 16-18 at idle.

isn't that crazy lean?

but then when I look at my logs it says different?

I have the white wire on my wideband ran to pin 75 on my ecu as well

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Before any tuning at all you need to have your WB gauge and your WB logged to be the same.

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Thd owner said its the bep housing. And I hate this latest update to my phone the predictive texting is horrible.

He's running an fp. Race manifold. (See earlier post)

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what do you guys use to open others logs? I have tried to click on others logs to gain some insight on what others look like, but when I click to open it brings me to windows media player?

how would I get them to sync?

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my wideband when logged only shows volts. it dosent give me a value?

i think i was looking at my afr estimates

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That's gonna be your computers settings or your version of link. Do you have the latest firmware/update installed? I click logs a window pops up and I click open with ecmlink.

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For now concentrate on getting your wideband to match and log properly. How do you have it set up in your ECU Inputs tab? Once you get it set up properly if they don't match up I would suggest setting it up under Linear Wideband to compensate for the voltage offset.

http://www.ecmtuning.com/wiki/linearitems

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under the documentation label in link?

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would you still be able to post the link?

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This is all in the wiki, have you watched all the tutorial videos?

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unless there is a second page of them?

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im honestly not giving myself enough credit here. I know a little, but im just scared to really attempt anything on my own, its like im playing the childhood game of operation, and everytime I go to do anything or adjust it I hear that "BZZZZZZ" sound in the back of my head lol

would just feel more comfortable with someone who knows the ins and outs answering questions as I go about it.

I rather be really cautious now and ask 101 questions to get the right answers then dick around and destroy my car :/

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Yeah man first step just get your wideband logged properly reading in AFR, it's all in the wiki.

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this is a download link to a pdf file and has tons of awesome info.



http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...66330100,d.aWw

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What wb are you attempting to use? If it’s an lc1 you are going to have to download the lm programmer and set your voltage points on your wb and in link. IF you don’t have this set up right there is no point on going any farther.
https://www.ecmtuning.com/wiki/innovatelc1orlm1install
get it here
http://www.ecmtuning.com/images/foru...MConfig315.exe

I had a second to look at your log quick.
Your global dead time needs to go back to 0. Check your car with timing light. Confirm its 5 degrees behind tdc. Is this a 6 bolt swap?

Set your coolant cel light down from 234 to 215. Unclick disable airflow smoothing with sd operation. I assume you have a stock TB? if so unclick the idle switch operation. And log it in your next log to make sure its activating properly.

Do this and get a log of with how you have your wb set up.