Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

To stop clutting up the other tuning thread with questions about the car I'm considering.

I thought I'd post up before I make the final decision and get inputs.

To start the current owner bought this car as a project and after looking at the photos of the day he picked it up boy was it ever. Still needs some work but it has Zero rust that i can see from all his photos of the underside as well as exterior and engine compartment other then on some bolt heads.

Car was built at ASAPerformance - was given photos of the build at there shop with his car in the background (license plate visible) first person i've talked to in 7months that could produce picts or a reciept for build.

General Mods:
Bolt-on Modifications:
FMIC, 2.25" IC piping, Tial BOV, Evo III Intake Manifold, 1G NT throttle body, FP Race exhaust manifold, HX35 w. BEP bolt-on turbine housing, Punishment Racing 02 housing converted to v-band, 3" SS downpipe, 3" SS exhaust, Bosch 2000cc injectors, aftermarket fuel rail, Aeromotive AFPR w/ gauge, Race Parts Solutions in-line SS fuel filter, SS fuel lines, Walboro 450 E85 pump, Buschur COP with Dynatec ignition box, Fidanza cam gears, FP 4" intake, Tial mvs 38 wastegate, forward facing oil filter housing, crushed water pipe welded at the end.

Engine Management:
ECMLink v3 on Speed Density, AEM wideband gauge, AEM Boost gauge, Ingersoll Rand Boost Control Solenoid controlled by ECMLink

Engine Internals:
6-bolt block .020 over, ARP classic head studs, Wiseco 9:0 pistons, Eagle H beam rods, ARP main studs, BSE, Kiggly crank trigger, Kiggly HLA pressure regulator, Fel-Pro HD MLS headgasket, HKS 272 cams, Crower valve springs, Crower Titanium retainers.

Drivetrain Modifications:
Stock 5-speed tranny, SS clutch line, ACT 2600 PP & 6-puck disk , 12-lb chromoly flywheel, Stock Rear LSD, Prothane mount inserts, solid shifter cable bushings, Torque Solutions Drive Shaft Bushings, Fluidampr crank pully, ARP crank pulley bolts.

Suspension Modifications:
HP Design RP5's 18x8, 235/40/18 Nankang el Cheapo tires, Hawk HP pads, Outlander Brake upgrade with SS brake lines. drilled and slotted rotors all around, Tokico HP shocks with Tockico springs

dynod 425awhp on a mustang dyno on E85.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

its red though

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Seems like a nice setup, do you mind posting the asking price? Understand if you don't, but it may help people tell you if it's a decent buy.

If you are going to retune for pump I would get smaller injectors, no need for anything bigger than 800cc and driveability would be a lot better. After selling the big injectors you would probably come out ahead anyway. But honestly of you have e85 anywhere near, I'd leave the tune as is, you'll lose a decent amount of hp going to pump. How much boost is that tune running?

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

ya its red... every white one i find is way overpriced for the mod list, or it sells before I can get to it.

The body of this car and the interior need work (cloth interior i'm going to swap to all black)

but what has me sold on it is the build, its the first time in 7 months anyone i talked to about there car could provide proof of build, and wasnt done by the owner in his garage or a friend of a friend who happens to work on cars. etc etc.

I just want to have a tune for both 93 and E85. trying to drive 10hrs from florida to SC. on E85 would be difficult to say the least at finding gas stations.

The asking price is $6,000 for this particular car.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

My ultimate plans come tax season next year if I do go with this car would be.
-Fix the body (previous owner had a body kit on it that the current owner took off as well as shaved the rear wiper but did a bad job of filling it in)
-Swap out the Interior
-Paint.
-New rims probably xxr 522, or 531's.

Depending on whats left - I might swap turbos or maybe a magnus v3 with there TB.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

That seems like a good price considering he paid a reputable shop to do the work.
I'd pay that much for it. That turbo will do over 500whp dynojet for sure.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Yeah, that really looks pretty decent, I can't believe what people are asking for some DSM's these days. It's laughable.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Seems like a decent build sheet. Price seems reasonable. If it truly is rust free, that's worth a lot in my book.

XXR's, herra frush!!!

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

I agree rust free makes it worth so much more and easily outweighs the interior.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Where in florida is it? My brother lives near Orlando if you need a set of eyes on it.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

West Palm beach about two miles from my old condo. I'm flying out on the 28th to get it. Hes also goimg to have it dyno tuned for 93oct amd 22psi for me before I get there. Son ill have tunes for both 93 and e85.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

He must work at a shop or dyno himself?

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

No kidding. We should have put a bunch in storage back in the early 2000's and sold them for double today.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Ha, they're asking crazy amounts, I guarantee NONE of them are selling. They still aren't worth that much unless it's a low mileage original car.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

I'm paying to have it dynod. The current owner is a police officer.

As far as some of the crap I've found over last 7 month. .
Last week.... 1995 white gsx (exactly what I was lookong for as far as shell goes) built motor, injen intake, safc, boost gauge, springs and struts, and exhaust. $6000 then after talking with the guy. Car can't be driven tranny is broke so no test drives,, no stereo, side mirrors don't work, no back seat, front seats are torn. And front bumper needs to be painted.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Also got some good news there is a guy who runs a salvage yard that's on tuners. Thats just north of Charlotte. That said he has most of the pieces I'd need if I ever wanted to go tan or black for the interior. Said he has over 200 eclipses in his yard. (Didn't get a response back yet though as far as pricing) but at least he's only about 1.5hrs from me and the over 1/2 the trip is on a back road I love (used to ride my R6 on it all the time before the kids ,very scenic)

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

So been tossing ideas around on the interior of this car tonight. And am pretty sure I want to ditch the cloth interior for black.

But have a few questions. I have taken every interior panel off my old eclipse bit a few pieces.

And im not even sure they came in black. Please chime in.
black dash (never taken a dash out is it complicated?)
Roof liner and sunroof cover (did they come on black? How hard is it to swap out sunroof cover)
Carpet (did it come in black?)
Doors did they make an all black door?

Im pretty sure im going to go with some sort of colored piping inside either red, or silver
what Do you guys thing

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Yes all those things were made in black. Your first time pulling a dash will be a little time consuming, I've done so many at this point I can have them out in 20 mins (using air ratchets of course). I dont think the headliner would be hard either but I've never done one with a sunroof.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

The guy at the junk yard said they never made an all black interior and then I saw one posted on tuners for sale. So I was some what confused.

I figured didn't really mater if they didn't make an all black interior but want pretty sure I could mix and match all the parts together as I really don't want to paint this interior.

I plan to do racing seats /belts in the future so that should also make it easier to find all the parts.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

I believe black was only an option in 99

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

They make most interior pieces in black. There are many panels however that were not made in black. I believe those are the rear plastics but I could be wrong. Everything major was made in black however, just as Fejery4491 said.

I too have taken the dash out of my '95 5+ times. It's easy and there are a few write ups. I may even have the printed out version I can get the link off of.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Also, the place you speak of is Miller Import Parts. The owner is a stand up guy. I've never been able to buy from him but he always responds to my questions. Even after hours! A friend of mine bought a '99 3000GT VR4 front bumper from him and had it grey-hounded up here for $200 total. Pretty decent for an OEM piece.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

It'd weird what im finding is only the 99 came with a black interior. But when they list the black interior parts they only mentions , doors, dash, armrest , seats, and front paneling.

Not the trunk panels, carpet, or headliner, a pillars.

I'd hate to start piecing this stuff together only to not have to end up painting some pieces.

Just seems weird that mitsubishi wouldn't do a complete black interior.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Some 98's came with black interior. I wouldn't say 100% black but about 90% of it was.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

If it were me I would just use the ones you have and plasti-dipping them. Obviously using a degreaser on everything before doing so. Then all you need is the dash, door panels, carpet and headliner. Seats too I suppose.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

thats one thing i was debating. if i have to paint trying to match everything etc.

But from old experience - i definetly want doors and all the major areas people hit with there feet to be oem black.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Well the car got dynod today 22psi@93oct. Put down 334awhp on a mustang dyno.
Owner mentioned that the car sputters at partial throttle at 60mph due to the large injectors on pump gas

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Here's the car back when it was on a 7 bolt.(will post link of today's dyno in a bit)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hHc-DoIrwIs

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Pump gas dyno
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ulRSFLnmC94

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

How does it idle on pump?

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

He said they idled just fine. But he has always had his idle set at 18000roma due to the cams.

He said the only issues hes having is a hiccup while cruising around 60mph or partial throttle.

But said he drove around today and said it drive great other then the above issue. He said the tuner wad able to adjust some of it out but couldn't get it all.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Idle @ 1800?! :lol:

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

this

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

heres a longer idle video I just captured: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKxoo0S1P3M


Sorry my phone is stupid (it does preditive correcting to the weirdest stuff) its 1000 rpms

Here is a link to the idle but I can't tell what im hearing. Im hoping its the cams

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yphUT03-Pk

This is a short clip of idle and sounds better. The first one sounds like rod knock

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

Other question I have is I know the current owner bought the eagle steering wheel from tkrperformance on here. And the pictures of the car when he bought it had talon side rails on the door. But had unpainted front and rear eclipse bumpers.

Hes since pulled the side rails off (which I will have to have the holes filled and the car painted) which I knew about.

But my concern is this. The vin he gave is for a 1997 eclipse. Amd I have never heard of anyone going from an eclipse to a talon look. Usually its the other way around.
Now I don't care if its a talon as it looks like an eclipse. My concern is if there is something else going on.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

If anyone sees tkr on (mark right?) Please ask him if the guy who bought his steering wheel ever mentioned what kind of car it is for.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

In recent years 2gb talons have become the ones everybody wants, so its becoming more and more common to convert them to talons. Not uncommon at all.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

I always like the talon with eclipse front and rears. Even the two tone look they had.

This issue is more of a trust thing then anything else. All his seller/buyer raitngs have been great. Amd so far hes been excellent with communication and answering questions.

Re: Potential Buy 1997 GSX
 

That's a minor thing. My car is an Eclipse with Talon front and rear, pretty common to swap parts these days.