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Trogdor 04-02-2015 08:40 PM

Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/02/politi...fix/index.html

1ViciousGSX 04-02-2015 09:18 PM

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Sad state of affairs in this country. This is so minor compared to everything else going on right now,......

jeremy1375 04-02-2015 11:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX (Post 454238)
This is so minor compared to everything else going on right now,......

I suppose, unless you or a loved one is LGBT...

Goat Blower 04-02-2015 11:42 PM

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Im sure the lgbt's were just lining up at small pizza joints in Indiana before this.

1ViciousGSX 04-03-2015 08:45 AM

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Let's see how well social media works now,.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4&hd=1

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 454241)
I suppose, unless you or a loved one is LGBT...

I'm sorry, doesn't apply to me, but I do have a dear friend who is a lesbian. And she doesn't run around looking to pick fights or throw it in everybody's face, "Hey look at me, I'm a girl and I fuck girls!"

That reporter had to go looking for a place outside her normal viewing area to find some obscure pizza joint out in the middle of nowhere to find a woman who said she probably wouldn't cater a gay wedding. Why? Because nobody ever uses her pizza place to cater any wedding, gay or straight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 454242)
Im sure the lgbt's were just lining up at small pizza joints in Indiana before this.

This made me LoL.

jeremy1375 04-03-2015 10:03 AM

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So if these type of signs started going up, nobody should care either if the business is crappy?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexpe...-crow-laws.jpg

goodhart 04-03-2015 10:16 AM

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Video was awesome

Goat Blower 04-03-2015 10:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 454249)
So if these type of signs started going up, nobody should care either if the business is crappy?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexpe...-crow-laws.jpg

Nice try.

jeremy1375 04-03-2015 10:34 AM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX (Post 454246)

I'm sorry, doesn't apply to me, but I do have a dear friend who is a lesbian. And she doesn't run around looking to pick fights or throw it in everybody's face, "Hey look at me, I'm a girl and I fuck girls!"

Based on that logic, Jim Crow laws should be acceptable based on the fact that some white people know some black people who don't push back against the laws.

jeremy1375 04-03-2015 10:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 454252)
Nice try.

Care to elaborate?

1ViciousGSX 04-03-2015 11:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 454253)
Based on that logic, Jim Crow laws should be acceptable based on the fact that some white people know some black people who don't push back against the laws.



Geeez, are we living in the 1960's or something? Last time I checked it's 2015.

"Political Correctness" is destroying this country, AND YOU ARE WALKING, TALKING, LIVING PROOF OF IT.
In the real world, if you wanted a product (a big ol' cake for your gay wedding) you would just find a local baker who
a) doesn't give a shit personally either way about a guy wanting another guys dick in his ass and would be glad to offer his services
or
b) as demand for enough "dick in my ass cakes" grew, the market place would pick up on it and respond appropriately by having somebody invest their hard earned dollars into opening "Dick'n Da'Ass Bakery", "Where We Bake It So You Can Stake It".

Whick cake do you think would come out better, the one from the shop that was forced to bake it, or the shop that wanted to bake it?

Goat Blower 04-03-2015 11:34 AM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 454254)
Care to elaborate?

Not really, your posts are too stupid to waste my time on. Please try to simply address the subject at hand next time instead of trying to somehow tie an irrelevant situation from 50 years ago. These two things have nothing in common, hence my comment.

A//// Guy 04-03-2015 11:35 AM

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The way you guys are stating things, as in businesses can refuse serving certain types of people is basically how it was back in the 1960s. How can you not see that? Mind boggle.

I dont think gay people will be lining up at a christian bakerys to make peen to peen cakes. Just not common sense. Also if a business wants to reject someone based on any of those things, it wouldnt be smart on their part if they want a successful business based on reviews, etc.

Equality is equality when it comes down to it, color, religion, sexual preference. People want your services, you should be happy to make a sale.

Its funny when Christians act like this, because overall that's not what Jesus taught people. What happened to not judging, being respectful to everyone. You know, the things Jesus carried out in his teachings? Im Catholic so I understand both sides, but when Christians go totally against that, its hypocritical.

Regardless of the law, this article clarifies that even with it in place now, there can still be legal trouble for businesses who refuse someone based on discrimination.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_6984156.html

Goat Blower 04-03-2015 11:46 AM

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If equality is equality, why is there an all out assault on anything related to Christianity lately?

1ViciousGSX 04-03-2015 11:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 454259)

I dont think gay people will be lining up at a christian bakerys to make peen to peen cakes. Just not common sense. Also if a business wants to reject someone based on any of those things, it wouldnt be smart on their part if they want a successful business based on reviews, etc.

Equality is equality when it comes down to it, color, religion, sexual preference. People want your services, you should be happy to make a sale.

But, you see, there is the problem of gays lining up at Christian Bakeries for the sole purpose of causing trouble. Like it or not, people do have a right to stand behind their religous beliefs when it comes to moral issues.

I don't see people lining up to close down those Muslim bakeries in the video I posted above. Why not?

Let the market take care of the problem if there is one.

1ViciousGSX 04-03-2015 11:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 454260)
If equality is equality, why is there an all out assault on anything related to Christianity lately?


+1

A//// Guy 04-03-2015 11:51 AM

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I guess I haven't seen these protests against churches or businesses, they must not happen in my neighborhood. Where are you seeing any of this happen so often against businesses or bakerys?

I understand if its a radical case like that, but it seems like common sense on both sides. Sadly, common sense is not so common.

tpunx99GSX 04-03-2015 12:17 PM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 454260)
If equality is equality, why is there an all out assault on anything related to Christianity lately?

Ask a muslim, scientologist, or morman how it feels?
There isnt an attack on Christianity silly, theres an attack on ALL religions. Its due to the fact that you are a christian that you seem to think people are attacking your religion. What do you think a muslim feels when you have idiot right wing Christians calling them all terrorists. What do you think a morman thinks when people constantly associate their religion with polygamy, or a scientologist thinks when someone makes fun of their origin story.

A//// Guy 04-03-2015 12:24 PM

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^Totally agree. People just see what they want to see though. Christians have the least worries when it comes down to judgement by others imo. Muslims probably have it the worst at this point in time.

jeremy1375 04-03-2015 12:57 PM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."

This is the reasoning Judge Leon M. Bazile used to convict the Loving's in 1959 for an inter-racial marriage. Justifying it through religion. Same reasoning, different decade. History repeats.

jeremy1375 04-03-2015 01:17 PM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 454258)
Not really, your posts are too stupid to waste my time on. Please try to simply address the subject at hand next time instead of trying to somehow tie an irrelevant situation from 50 years ago. These two things have nothing in common, hence my comment.

You should try taking a history class.

BTW, your posts are stupider, dick.

Speedfreak 04-03-2015 01:21 PM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 454268)
"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."

This is the reasoning Judge Leon M. Bazile used to convict the Loving's in 1959 for an inter-racial marriage. Justifying it through religion. Same reasoning, different decade. History repeats.

His interpretation of religion. Interpretation of everything going on is subjective. The current situations are and were inevitable.

jeremy1375 04-03-2015 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedfreak (Post 454270)
His interpretation of religion. Interpretation of everything going on is subjective. The current situations are and were inevitable.

Agree on the subjective interpretation. Based on the Bible, I'm positive Jesus would be cool with inter-racial marriage as well as scold those who are dicks to lgbt's. The huge problem is people abusing religion by using it to justify their dislike/hatred of others.

jeremy1375 04-03-2015 01:48 PM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX (Post 454257)
Geeez, are we living in the 1960's or something? Last time I checked it's 2015.

"Political Correctness" is destroying this country, AND YOU ARE WALKING, TALKING, LIVING PROOF OF IT.
In the real world, if you wanted a product (a big ol' cake for your gay wedding) you would just find a local baker who
a) doesn't give a shit personally either way about a guy wanting another guys dick in his ass and would be glad to offer his services
or
b) as demand for enough "dick in my ass cakes" grew, the market place would pick up on it and respond appropriately by having somebody invest their hard earned dollars into opening "Dick'n Da'Ass Bakery", "Where We Bake It So You Can Stake It".

Whick cake do you think would come out better, the one from the shop that was forced to bake it, or the shop that wanted to bake it?


No gay person will be going to the place that doesn't want their business regardless. It's the spirit of the law that is discriminatory. If Louisiana came up with a law that specifically allowed businesses to refuse customers based the religious belief that white heterosexual males are an abomination to God, are you telling me that it wouldn't bother you in the least?

You have the luxury of that never happening to you. As long as you aren't the subject of the discrimination, it's all petty bs, right?

A//// Guy 04-03-2015 02:11 PM

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Arnie puts it well: http://www.washingtonpost.com/postev...r-republicans/

1ViciousGSX 04-03-2015 02:14 PM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 454265)
Ask a muslim, scientologist, or morman how it feels?
There isnt an attack on Christianity silly, theres an attack on ALL religions. Its due to the fact that you are a christian that you seem to think people are attacking your religion. What do you think a muslim feels when you have idiot right wing Christians calling them all terrorists. What do you think a morman thinks when people constantly associate their religion with polygamy, or a scientologist thinks when someone makes fun of their origin story.

Quote:

Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 454266)
^Totally agree. People just see what they want to see though. Christians have the least worries when it comes down to judgement by others imo. Muslims probably have it the worst at this point in time.

I guess all those beheadings that are happening to Christians are just a fluke accident? I don't really see Muslims being beheaded for being Muslim.

Of all the other religions, name one that right now as we speak is beheading anybody of other faiths besides Muslim. The reason why all Muslims are all lumped into the terrorist catagory is because the silent majority of them who are good people are not speaking out against those that are killing in the name of Allah. SO, if Muslims have it the worst right now it's because they brought it upon themselves.

And for the "But what about the crusades?" crowd,
Answer: The crusades have provided some of the most frequent arguments against the Christian faith. Some Islamic terrorists even claim that their terrorist attacks are revenge for what Christians did in the crusades. So, what were the crusades and why are they viewed as such a big problem for the Christian faith?

First of all, the crusades should not be referred to as the “Christian crusades.” Most of the people involved in the crusades were not truly Christians, even though they claimed to be. The name of Christ was abused, misused, and blasphemed by the actions of many of the crusaders. Second, the crusades took place from approximately A.D. 1095 to 1230. Should the unbiblical actions of supposed Christians hundreds of years ago still be held against Christians today?

Third, not that this is an adequate excuse, but Christianity is not the only religion with a violent past. In actuality, the crusades were responses to Muslim invasions on what was once land occupied primarily by Christians. From approximately A.D. 200 to 900, the land of Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, and Turkey was inhabited primarily by Christians. Once Islam became powerful, Muslims invaded these lands and brutally oppressed, enslaved, deported, and even murdered the Christians living in those lands. In response, the Roman Catholic Church and “Christian” kings/emperors from Europe ordered the crusades to reclaim the land the Muslims had taken. The actions that many so-called Christians took in the crusades were still deplorable. There is no biblical justification for conquering lands, murdering civilians, and destroying cities in the name of Jesus Christ. At the same time, Islam is not a religion that can speak from a position of innocence in these matters.

To summarize briefly, the crusades were attempts in the 11th through 13th centuries A.D. to reclaim land in the Middle East that had been conquered by Muslims. The crusades were brutal and evil. Many people were forced to “convert” to Christianity. If they refused, they were put to death. The idea of conquering a land through war and violence in the name of Christ is completely unbiblical. Many of the actions that took place in the crusades were completely antithetical to everything the Christian faith stands for.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Christia...#ixzz3WGqfWVss

Answer: ORIGINS OF THE CRUSADES
After the death of Charlemagne, king of the Franks, in 814 and the subsequent collapse of his empire, Christian Europe was under attack and on the defensive. Magyars, nomadic people from Asia, pillaged eastern and central Europe until the 10th century. Beginning about 800, several centuries of Viking raids disrupted life in northern Europe and even threatened Mediterranean cities. But the greatest threat came from the forces of Islam, militant and victorious in the centuries following the death of their leader, Muhammad, in 632. By the 8th century, Islamic forces had conquered North Africa, the eastern shores of the Mediterranean, and most of Spain. Islamic armies established bases in Italy, greatly reduced the size and power of the Byzantine Empire (the Eastern Roman Empire) and besieged its capital, Constantinople. The Byzantine Empire, which had preserved much of the classical civilization of the Greeks and had defended the eastern Mediterranean from assaults from all sides, was barely able to hold off the enemy. Islam posed the threat of a rival culture and religion, which neither the Vikings nor the Magyars had done.
http://history-world.org/crusades.htm

A//// Guy 04-03-2015 02:20 PM

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Im talking about in the US, not over in the middle east. smh. You cant talk about religion world based, when we are discussing laws being made in the US.

1ViciousGSX 04-03-2015 02:22 PM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 454272)
No gay person will be going to the place that doesn't want their business regardless.

Bullshit. If that statement were true, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 454272)
It's the spirit of the law that is discriminatory. If Louisiana came up with a law that specifically allowed businesses to refuse customers based the religious belief that white heterosexual males are an abomination to God, are you telling me that it wouldn't bother you in the least?

I'd find it humerous and move on. They don't want my money, I can find somebody who does.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 454272)
You have the luxury of that never happening to you. As long as you aren't the subject of the discrimination, it's all petty bs, right?

I see it happening all the time to "whitey". Where should we start? Government programs? Housing programs? Educational programs?
You see, I want rascism to go away, just like you. But drawing any lines based on race keeps it alive.

1ViciousGSX 04-03-2015 02:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 454275)
Im talking about in the US, not over in the middle east. smh. You cant talk about religion world based, when we are discussing laws being made in the US.

Why can't I? Hasn't stopped people in this forum before.

So it's ok for Christians and other non-Islamist to be KILLED in the most gruesome fashion and that doesn't matter as long as gay boy can get his wedding cake. And if he can't, threaten and bankrupt a baker.
Explain that logic to me, we're all waiting.

tpunx99GSX 04-03-2015 02:27 PM

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Did you just defend the crusades? Lmao
And using the arguement that they were not truly Christians can be the same argument Muslims can make about Isis not being true followers of Islam.
I'll write more against your arguement once I get out of this meeting

jeremy1375 04-03-2015 02:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX (Post 454276)

I'd find it humerous and move on. They don't want my money, I can find somebody who does.

Really? What if you had only recently been allowed to marry as a heterosexual? What if your right to marry was still being challenged?

Could what you express as discrimination toward "whitey" be only feeling pissed about no longer being on the top of the food chain.

1ViciousGSX 04-03-2015 02:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 454278)
Did you just defend the crusades? Lmao
And using the arguement that they were not truly Christians can be the same argument Muslims can make about Isis not being true followers of Islam.
I'll write more against your arguement once I get out of this meeting

I didn't defend the crusades, I gave the history behind the crusades.

A//// Guy 04-03-2015 02:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX (Post 454277)
Why can't I? Hasn't stopped people in this forum before.

So it's ok for Christians and other non-Muslims to be KILLED in the most gruesome fashion and that doesn't matter as long as gay boy can get his wedding cake. And if he can't, threaten and bankrupt a baker.
Explain that logic to me, we're all waiting.

Dude really? This is going the same way every other political thread goes, not sure why I chimed in.

Anyway, obviously no it is terrible a small group of terrorists are killing people who are non muslim, but they are also killing other muslims as well.

The original topic was about a law passed in this country, not sure why youd even bring this up, when it doesnt pertain to it. If people were getting killed here because they couldnt buy a cake from a christian bake sale that was shaped like a weiner, then that would make a bit more sense in your argument. I dont see that happening.

tehehodi 04-03-2015 02:41 PM

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Hey guys,

Don't mind me, I just wanted to http://files2.coloribus.com/files/ad...mall-32232.jpg in.

A//// Guy 04-03-2015 02:48 PM

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lmao, black people arent allowed to use fans in this forum.

tpunx99GSX 04-03-2015 02:59 PM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX (Post 454274)
I guess all those beheadings that are happening to Christians are just a fluke accident? I don't really see Muslims being beheaded for being Muslim.

Of all the other religions, name one that right now as we speak is beheading anybody of other faiths besides Muslim. The reason why all Muslims are all lumped into the terrorist catagory is because the silent majority of them who are good people are not speaking out against those that are killing in the name of Allah. SO, if Muslims have it the worst right now it's because they brought it upon themselves.

We can talk to recent history regarding this. Hitler. Christian german trying to create the supreme race by ridding the world of jewish people.
The KKK ridding the world by hanging, burning and murdering people of any color other than white.
So would you say these sects of christianity really relate to your view of your religion?
No? Well then you cant do the same thing with Islam. (Muslim is not a religion) Many Muslims do not fall into the same extremist views as the ones making headlines. Just like most christians do not share the same views as wesboro baptist church.

A//// Guy 04-03-2015 03:11 PM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX (Post 454274)
I guess all those beheadings that are happening to Christians are just a fluke accident? I don't really see Muslims being beheaded for being Muslim.

Of all the other religions, name one that right now as we speak is beheading anybody of other faiths besides Muslim. The reason why all Muslims are all lumped into the terrorist catagory is because the silent majority of them who are good people are not speaking out against those that are killing in the name of Allah. SO, if Muslims have it the worst right now it's because they brought it upon themselves.

Also, ISIS is killing muslims, large quantities. You probably arent seeing this in the mainstream news.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...eath-toll.html

1ViciousGSX 04-03-2015 03:14 PM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 454279)
Really? What if you had only recently be allowed to marry as a heterosexual? What if your right to marry was still being challenged?

See, here's a major part of the problem.

Marriage as defined by, oh lets see, Oxford Univerisity (Oxford Dictionaries) is the union between a man and a woman.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us...glish/marriage

Here's another way to look at it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcs1K7Gi9Pg&hd=1

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 454279)
Could what you express as discrimination toward "whitey" be only feeling pissed about no longer being on the top of the food chain.

Are you kidding me? That's your question after I expressed that white people are being disciminated against?
SO, your white guilt makes you ok with being discrimanated against?
SO, you want a post racial society, well except for when it's against whitey?

tpunx99GSX 04-03-2015 03:14 PM

Re: Once in a while Social Media can be useful. LOL@Indiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX (Post 454274)
The reason why all Muslims are all lumped into the terrorist catagory is because the silent majority of them who are good people are not speaking out against those that are killing in the name of Allah. SO, if Muslims have it the worst right now it's because they brought it upon themselves.

Many Muslims have spoken out about it, but are quickly drown out by the likes of fox news and their supporters making stupid accusations such as the one you just made.
I particularly detest the last thing you said above because it goes beyond what you said before that, "Its because they brought it upon themselves". Seems to be the republican stance on a lot of subjects lately. Blaming the victim... "That boy was beaten up because he was gay, well i guess he shouldnt have been gay and brought it on himself" "That girl was raped and got pregnant, Well she shouldnt have been dressing that way inviting rapists, she brought that upon her self when she wore those clothes."

tpunx99GSX 04-03-2015 03:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX (Post 454286)
Are you kidding me? That's your question after I expressed that white people are being disciminated against?
SO, your white guilt makes you ok with being discrimanated against?
SO, you want a post racial society, well except for when it's against whitey?

I think his point wasn't white guilt, but more "EVERYBODY is discriminated against, so why not white people." Cry because its you, but its ok if you do it to someone else.


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