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dsm95gsxer 12-16-2004 01:39 PM

Any body using tmo chips?
 
There is one for sale on ebay right now that is a stage 3 which is perfect for my setup right now. I have a e-prom ecu so that also helps. Just looking for feedback. Is anybody using one or have any experience with one? Who can socket it?

Super Bleeder!! 12-16-2004 01:47 PM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
its not a real tmo, the name got sold to some jackass. get a keydiver chip, Jeff O is the way to go. http://www.dsmchips.com/

Alpine TSi 12-16-2004 02:16 PM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Or get in touch with LightningGSX on this board as he can burn some pretty good chips too, plus socket your ECU and it is all done locally, saving on shipping. He burnt one for me and I have had great luck with it thus far.

dsm95gsxer 12-16-2004 02:26 PM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Good deal, I'm just trying to exercise my options.

FORSFED 12-17-2004 12:07 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
I'll confess, the ones on ebay aren't worth your while. Then I ran a keydiver chip right when he started burning them with the different fuel maps for injectors and mas airflow compensations which worked awesome on my 91 with 550's and a 2g mas. I've more recently been working with Eric now though. He can do everything that the keydiver can do and more. Plus he's local like Matt said, and it's easy for him to reburn a chip in no time if you upgrade anything in your setup.

1ViciousGSX 12-18-2004 08:51 PM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
You can get DSMLink for 1g's now.

Alpine TSi 12-18-2004 09:49 PM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Am I the only one that can't seem to find anything out about DSMLink for 1G's? They don't mention anything on their site and I can't find anything by searching, just speculation about a release date and nothing newer than late October. Did it come out and I am just dumb and can't find where it is?

1ViciousGSX 12-18-2004 10:04 PM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Contact the people at DSMLink. I'm pretty sure it's out now, but keep in mind I drive a 2g and don't follow 1g cars that much. I just installed their new v2.5 client software and during the install it asked if I had a 1g or 2g DSMLink. So either it's out or it's about to be.

Jakey 12-18-2004 11:41 PM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
From anything that I've seen DSMLink is not officially out for 1G's. Supposedly it is out on some pilot runs but the official release has not been made yet.

Goat Blower 12-20-2004 01:39 PM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Mention has been made that it is out, I'd contact DSMlink directly about it. BTW, I've got two 1G Eprom ECU's for sale, one with a real TMO stage 3 chip and one with a Keydiver chip setup for my application.

dsm95gsxer 12-20-2004 02:01 PM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Dsmlink also has a forum for their products. The creator is pretty helpful.

dsm95gsxer 12-20-2004 02:03 PM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
So, for not dropping the $600, are the chips worth it or should I just hold out and buy dsm link. My roomate (9guy9) uses it and I like the features.

1ViciousGSX 12-21-2004 12:06 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsm95gsxer
So, for not dropping the $600, are the chips worth it or should I just hold out and buy dsm link. My roomate (9guy9) uses it and I like the features.

Hold out for DSMLink

LightningGSX 12-21-2004 12:45 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
IMO, Buy the $40 willem eprom programmer off Ebay(it works very well), buy a few $2 blank chips, and download Evilscribe or TunerPro with the 1g-E931 definition file(both free).As long as you can follow directions(NO programming experience required) you can easily burn your own custom chips and save yourself anywhere from $50 to $600.With the amount of info on the 1g eprom out now, there's NO reason to buy Dsmlinks or keydiver chips for 1gs.

dsm10sec 12-21-2004 01:23 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
What would you suggest to use for burning EPROMs? I have heard eprom burners are upwards of $150. I have also heard you can use NICs to burn eproms.

LightningGSX 12-21-2004 01:32 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsm10sec
What would you suggest to use for burning EPROMs? I have heard eprom burners are upwards of $150. I have also heard you can use NICs to burn eproms, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightningGSX
Buy the $40 willem eprom programmer off Ebay(it works very well)

Its actually a Willem knockoff but it works, and its cheap.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...860666785&rd=1

dsm10sec 12-21-2004 01:34 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Doh! Do you know if it will work on an AMD Athlon machine? How much would it cost if I had you socket my ECU?

LightningGSX 12-21-2004 01:43 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
And http://www.evilscribe.net/

If you have any questions, PM me and I'll help you out.

LightningGSX 12-21-2004 01:48 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsm10sec
Doh! Do you know if it will work on an AMD Athlon machine? How much would it cost if I had you socket my ECU?

I don't see why it wouldn't.Go to http://www.willem.org/ details of the programmer software are there, there is even plans/schematics if you want to build your own programmer.

I usually charge $20 to socket 1g ECUs, for an extra $15-$20 I can put a ZIF(Zero Insertion Force) socket in there too, this makes changing EPROMS very easy

dsm10sec 12-23-2004 12:54 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Hey, how come in the keydrivers forum they say you can't socket a non-socketed ecu because you need a daughter board, couple processors, etc?

LightningGSX 12-23-2004 01:28 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
They are refering to non-eprom ECUs.You do have an eprom ECU right?

dsm10sec 12-23-2004 01:55 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Nope, guess I should buy one, huh? But, if I get one what's the point of you socketing it, isn't it already socketed?

LightningGSX 12-23-2004 03:39 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsm10sec
Nope, guess I should buy one, huh? But, if I get one what's the point of you socketing it, isn't it already socketed?

Nope, unless you buy one that someone has already socketed

dsm10sec 12-23-2004 11:10 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Oh, maybe I should just get an AEM EMS witha wideband then.

LightningGSX 12-24-2004 01:53 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Slight difference in price, like maybe $1400-$1500.

Halon 12-24-2004 02:43 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
wow, I guess I didn't realise how easy it was to program these. So you're saying someone like myself that has no clue on burning these chips would be able to do this no problem? Just gotta come up with all the numbers myself, and it burns it easy as cake? Maybe it's worth me screwin around with.

LightningGSX 12-24-2004 04:01 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Yep pretty much.Evilscribe, at present, will handle fuel/timing maps, rev limiter, injector comp, idle speed, MAF swaps(2g into 1g, etc), and fuel cut.If you want to add stutter routines, alter stock boost gauge, etc you will need some experience.I'm sure in time, this will be added to Evilscribe as well.

LightningGSX 12-24-2004 04:03 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
I should add, all this is for 1G's only.

1ViciousGSX 12-24-2004 09:21 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by me612
Maybe it's worth me screwin around with.

It's worth it until you screw up and damage your engine. :cool:

MustGoFaster 12-24-2004 09:40 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Ehh, it's working fine for me. Normally, if you screw up the car won't start. Until I got it figured out I burnt a whole bunch of chips and ended up erasing them because of various mistakes I made. If anybody buys one of the programmers off ebay (like I did) I can help you figure it out. The hardest part is that they don't come with instructions really. The burner also works off laptops, so if you have a laptop and a few spare chips, it's possible to tune your car at the track.

As far as "blowing up the car", if you manage to blow it up with this, you would have blown it up with any other tuning system.

LightningGSX 12-24-2004 10:05 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Really, theres a few very minor things that can give you big problems, but they're simple to overcome, and like Ryan said, the most that will happen is your car won't start.Of course you can enter bonehead values in your fuel/timing maps, but its the same with any other tuning device.So if you can't figure this stuff out after a few tries, you have no business doing anything to your car, other than driving it.

LightningGSX 12-24-2004 10:35 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Since we have whored up this persons thread, maybe the mods could seperate this suff into another thread and Ryan and I could add instructions.

dsm95gsxer 12-24-2004 11:48 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
I have a 2g eprom is it similar?

LightningGSX 12-24-2004 11:49 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsm95gsxer
I have a 2g eprom is it similar?

Nope

dsm95gsxer 12-24-2004 11:53 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
What is the difference? I like the idea of it, if you want to run something different just make another chip.

LightningGSX 12-24-2004 12:54 PM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsm95gsxer
What is the difference?

Different processor, instruction set, eprom, hardware registers and code.

1ViciousGSX 12-25-2004 08:15 AM

Re: Any body using tmo chips?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LightningGSX
Since we have whored up this persons thread, maybe the mods could seperate this suff into another thread and Ryan and I could add instructions.

Done. ;)

http://www.dsmstyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5948


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