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sideways motorsports 10-25-2005 11:02 AM

EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Just saw this in the middle of a used car add. From a dealer here in town.

"2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 2.0L TURBO 4CYL AWD SEDAN Mitsubishi has announced that they have stopped importing the EVOLUTION to the USA! This is your chance to get what's sure to be a collectors item at a fair price."


Havent heard anything about Mitsu doing this and I know that the 9's were already arriving. Just curious if anyone has heard anything about this rumor or not.

Dan

Kracka 10-25-2005 11:10 AM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
That is nonsense, they just confirmed the EVO X will be released in early 2007 as an '07 model with 300hp and a few more handling electronics. Its pretty badass looking, but from what they are saying it won't be a true manual, it'll be a paddle shifter clutchless thing.

sideways motorsports 10-25-2005 11:16 AM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
And this:
Evo X that power will be provided by an all-new unit as the ageing 4G 63 block is finally retired, having provided motivation for quick Lancers since the Evo I of 1992.

Just wondering if the info hasnt hit the streets yet about no more EVO. This is the only thing I have found on line about it so far and it seems that the info has come from the same dealership here in the cities.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=165844

Dan

Kracka 10-25-2005 11:27 AM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
I have heard nothing about the X getting a different engine, I know that it will still be a 2.0L 4-cylinder so I can't imagine why Mitsu would use anything besides the 4G63 since its proven itself time and time again. Most dealerships seem to know nothing more than the general public when it comes to a lot of issues regarding future models.

DSMPARTSGURU 10-25-2005 11:34 AM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
LOL,


I HAVE SOME OCEAN FRONT PROPERTy IN DULUTH FOR SALE ALSO....

Steeltwo 10-25-2005 12:48 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
sadly enough teh 4g63 is being retired

the new engine will be a mivec 4 popper

mitsu announced this a while ago

niterydr 10-25-2005 01:02 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
No 4g63? I have to learn ANOTHER Mitsubishi engine!! argg... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Shane@DBPerformance 10-25-2005 01:29 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Probably a nice open deck all aluminum motor that can't handle any power.

DSMPARTSGURU 10-25-2005 01:33 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
WELL if rumors be true, i dont think you guys will be disapointed..... supposedly more discplacment is on the way via the mivec...

chris

CVD 10-25-2005 03:01 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
If its not a 4G63, you can bet we'll be dissapointed.
And bigger displacement mivec makes me worry that it wont even be turbo.

Kracka 10-25-2005 03:03 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Mitsu has already said it will be turbo.

Super Bleeder!! 10-25-2005 03:32 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
i hope it has 8 million different electronic driver aids, fifteen pumps all over the chassis for various things, and a minimum of 8 more solenoids in the engine compartment.

i also hope they will offer an RS, with none of that crap.

TheLBUGAWD 10-25-2005 03:46 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Isnt the mivec in the new eclispes?(which i think are ugly as hell and they made it a V6, gay) and why would they switch from the 4G63? I hope they dont.

JET 10-25-2005 05:33 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
The engine is not a 4g63, but is a 2.0 4 cylinder MIVEC. I have not heard if it was an aluminum block or not though. Hopefully they go bigger bore and shorter stroke. More top end powa!

Kracka 10-25-2005 05:42 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Its going to be an alloy block.

cudvig 10-25-2005 08:25 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
fucking aluminium should only be used for pop cans. and maybe honda motors.

-Colin

Kracka 10-25-2005 08:30 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cudvig
fucking aluminium should only be used for pop cans. and maybe honda motors.

-Colin


Yeah lightweight is never a good thing :/ More of the EVO body will be aluminum for the X than either the VIII or IX.

niterydr 10-25-2005 09:40 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Sweet, its easier to recycle it in one center then!
Go aluminum!

Super Bleeder!! 10-25-2005 09:59 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
i hope they do a good job of implementing the extensive alum use; as it has a pretty poor fatigue life compared with traditional steels.
An example would be an aluminum bodied audi losing 50% of its structural rigidity after 5 years of normal driving, due soley to stress cycles and not designing around it. (after all, if the car gets creaky down the road you'll probably want a new one!)

bottom line, i hope they continue designing with sound engineering principles in mind. so far they've been pretty decent :)

JET 10-25-2005 10:08 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cudvig
fucking aluminium should only be used for pop cans. and maybe honda motors.

-Colin

Yeah, because the LS7 engine is a piece of crap :rolleyes:

Aluminum is good if it is used properly. Like Floppy said, it isn't always used properly!

CDeutsch 10-25-2005 10:52 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Isn't Mivec just the head? I thought the Evo IX was a 4G63 block with the Mivec? How crazy can they really get with an inline 4?

As long as there are a couple of Evo 8 MR's left at a reasonable price that's all that matters to me. I'll let other people be the test monkeys for Mivec and whatever the hell else Mitsu wants to try. ;)

Kracka 10-26-2005 02:53 AM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
You are correct about MIVEC and the IX having it. MIVEC doesn't mean a whole new engine, just like when Honda says and engine has VTEC. The block can be the same, only the head differs. I see nothing against MIVEC yet, supposedly its able to create a lot larger torque band. Has anyone run into problems with it once they are pushing more power? I have not heard if the X will continue using the 4G63 or not though, I can't see why they would take the time and effort to design a new 2L block when the 4G63 has been tried and trued for many many many years now...it dates back to at least the early 80's, why stop now?

awd-drifter 10-26-2005 08:34 AM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
true, but have you guys seen the evo 9s? it seems like the only difference is the front bumper and the MIVEC head. There's some in Kline Mitsubishi in Maplewood. Caught my eye, went to go look at it but didnt get a test drive (damn!) oh well, still an Evo.

Kracka 10-26-2005 09:00 AM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by awd-drifter
true, but have you guys seen the evo 9s? it seems like the only difference is the front bumper and the MIVEC head.

OK?

DSMPARTSGURU 10-26-2005 09:30 AM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
YEHA WE HAVE 2 OR 3 EVO 9'S .... and one mr

chris

sideways motorsports 10-26-2005 10:02 AM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
The statement about the EVO not being imported anylonger came from Kline. Be interested in what they would have to say to someone face to face. Might take along lunch.
Dan

Shotgun! 10-26-2005 10:42 AM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Yeah, keep us posted.

Shane@DBPerformance 10-26-2005 12:26 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
They should do a more VTECish based version of MIVEC. The variable valve timing stuff that companies like Mitsu and Toyota use is ok, but it doesn't make the kind of power that the alternate cam lobe Honda VTEC stuff does. And now with the K-series Honda motors, they use both the variable valve/cam timing and the alternate lobes.

Hopefully Mitsu isn't going to goto throttle-by-wire also, so that there isn't any standalones available for the car and I wouldn't want a Mitsu implementation of a shitty less responsive torque controlling throttle-by-wire system to deal with.

iceminion 10-26-2005 03:07 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
I was reading a report about the whole body being made of aluminum...as for the engine, still turbo, mivec, different block, most likely NOT aluminum, ill try to get a link to some pictures up pretty soon if i can

BOVADDICT 10-26-2005 03:16 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
*Admitted wrong on page 3 about the mounting of the engine*

*Still accountable for*Reading reviews in several magazines they say that the Evo 9 might be the last Eevo again ever because Ralliart and the other company involved with making the Evo's wanted to make a newer, lighter, 2 door model.

*I am just sharing what i read not neccesarily Facts*

Steeltwo 10-26-2005 03:46 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballpro69
Evo 9 engine is mounted COMPLETELY opposite then the Evo 9.

OMG, Mitsu has done it again!!! :-D

Steeltwo 10-26-2005 03:48 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli
They should do a more VTECish based version of MIVEC. The variable valve timing stuff that companies like Mitsu and Toyota use is ok, but it doesn't make the kind of power that the alternate cam lobe Honda VTEC stuff does. And now with the K-series Honda motors, they use both the variable valve/cam timing and the alternate lobes.

Hopefully Mitsu isn't going to goto throttle-by-wire also, so that there isn't any standalones available for the car and I wouldn't want a Mitsu implementation of a shitty less responsive torque controlling throttle-by-wire system to deal with.

according to alot of car mags. The mivec has better seemless power. They said it still has a good amount of torque, where as the honda's vtec and yota's vvti lack a bit in the low end department.

BOVADDICT 10-26-2005 05:04 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeltwo
OMG, Mitsu has done it again!!! :-D


My bad i meant Evo 8.

Also this MIVEC stuff doesnt cause that much of a difference stock. But for further tuning i guarantee its better then this V-tech mumbo jumbo. And if not.. Then ill wait for the pics that say "mivec's kickin in yo!"
http://www.ownedforums.com/pics/albu...thumb_vtec.jpg
Link if pic doesnt work http://www.ownedforums.com/pics/albu...thumb_vtec.jpg

Super Bleeder!! 10-26-2005 05:38 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballpro69
Also this MIVEC stuff doesnt cause that much of a difference stock. But for further tuning i guarantee its better then this V-tech mumbo jumbo.

jakey was right, you really don't put any thought or effort into anything you have to say. explain how a simple mechanism that advances and retards cam timing is superior to a system that does the same AND has a whole separate, more aggressive cam profile that it can switch over to.

and the evoIX engine is mounted backwards from the 8? pics of proof or stfu.

iceminion 10-26-2005 06:30 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Looks to me like the engine on the 9 is on the same side as the 8,

link
http://www.motorequipmentnews.co.nz/..._IX_engine.jpg

I could be wrong

Shane@DBPerformance 10-26-2005 06:33 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
IX is a 4G63, Evo X isn't.

iceminion 10-26-2005 06:41 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
true, but it looks like its gonna be a 2.0L

http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring...-show-2005.htm

real pics

Halon 10-26-2005 07:05 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballpro69
Evo 9 engine is mounted COMPLETELY opposite then the Evo 8. So theres another difference. Also the Evo 9 does have a mivec head but the same 4g63 block. Suspension and everything needed to be changed to mount it because they used the rhd engine from Japan in the American Evo 9. Reading reviews in several magazines they say that the Evo 9 might be the last Eevo again ever because Ralliart and the other company involved with making the Evo's wanted to make a newer, lighter, 2 door model.

*I am just sharing what i read not neccesarily Facts*

It's not backwards from what the 8 was. I want some of whatever you're smokin!
http://www.mitsubishicars.com/images...large_3_in.jpg

dsm10sec 10-26-2005 07:10 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by notnormal
and the evoIX engine is mounted backwards from the 8? pics of proof or stfu.

Wow, you need to chill out. Proof of pics? This whole thread is based on information that someone's read somewhere. No one here is involved with the development of the Evo 9 or any other of th Evos. At this point, MOST of everything in here is SPECULATION.

edit: had to use bold function since some can't read correctly. Before your picture all it was is talk.

Halon 10-26-2005 07:13 PM

Re: EVO no longer being imported to the US??
 
Mista Mista, that is the Evo9 motor above. What more proof do you need?


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