High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

Ok, long story short one of my "friends" swapped in my new 6 bolt for me. Big mistake. It runs. Idle is between 2.5 and 3k. I think I can get this to come down with adjusting the biss screw. Not entirely sure. It is a brand new 1g throttle body from Steve Monroe so I know it is good to go. However, my main problem is where my dumbass friend put the CAS. Instead of the bolt holes being like . . they are : or 90 degrees from what it should be. I played around with it a bit and if I push it too far it starts to sputter and back fire. Not what I want obviously. My main question is what the hell do I need to do to get the CAS back to where it should be. I am not sure what the hell he did or didn't do. I know the car does run and other than playing with the CAS a bit I haven't had a chance to do much other than run the vacuum lines the way they should be.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. And I do have link, but nothing has been adjusted or logged in there as I don't want the car running with the CAS like it is. I am just trying to get the car back to my place in running order so I can figure out what the hell else was f'ed up.

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

You need a timing light to set the base timing. You also need to ground the timing check wire, around the battery on the firewall and has a cap on the plug. As for the idle I think the throttle cable is set to tight, so the throttle body is being held open.

~John

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

Thanks John,

Throttle cable is possible. I had thought about that, but haven't had a chance to check it. It was a long ass week finishing my Master Thesis and now dealing with this crap.

Anybody want to come to Hudson and help me get base timing down? I do not have a timing light nor the ability to do that.


John

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

What year is the car? What type of CAS is on it, the one that goes under the cam gears on 2g, or a 1g style on the passenger side of the VC? I'm not seeing how the CAS could be 90* off, there would be nowhere for the bolts to thread into.

In link you should be able to ground the timing.

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

Car is a '95 with a six bolt. CAS is a green top. It isn't the 2g style. And yes, you are correct, there is no where for one of the bolts. How and why the fuck he did that I am not sure and at this point don't really want to deal with the dumb ass to find out.

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

Maybe the CAS is 180* off?

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

It is a possibility I am thinking as well. Actually that is one of the things I was thinking and then another member from WIdsm said it as well. Regardless, base timing is going to be off so getting that done and checking that will be in order.

Like I said it runs, and quite well other than the high idle. I just don't want to be driving it with my CAS sitting like that.

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

If the CAS is 180 out the car would not run, well I have not tried it but my guess is it will not run.

~John

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2.../fuckchuck.jpg

For those that didn't believe me. And yes, it barely runs. Hopefully it will all be sorted out on Saturday.

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

Is it a 1g head? if so there is no reason why the cas could not be bolted on the right way. And that looks to be a ways off, so I guess it can run being WAY off. That is one of the better "make it work" I have seen.

~John

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

Yeah, 1g head. Whenever I tried moving it it would start to sputter and die. I am just amazed he tried to pass this off as being ok. Seriously made me go WTF?

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

Wow, that's one of the most hilarious things I've seen someone do to a car!

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

Why not put it back to it's correct location while the car is off and start it?

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

The PCV isn't hooked up, but it looks fine otherwise. :)

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

Yeah why don't you just take the bolts out holding the chain then bolt the CAS back on how it's supposed to be.? Suprised you haven't done that yet, especially since you know it's waaaay wrong.

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

How many times do I have to say I moved the damn thing. It does not run unless it sits like that. It isn't a matter of bolting it back the way it is supposed to be. It is a matter of figuring out why the hell IT ONLY RUNS LIKE IT IS.

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

Well it's 90* off right now. When you put it back to normal it could be 180* off, or correct. I'd make sure the notch is lined up correct with #1 tdc.

Looking at the picture, it seems the top has to rotate towards the front of the car? Based on this, it looks like the notch should point to the back of the car with #1 tdc. Shouldn't take long to verify if it's lined up right.

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

Do a search on 6bolt swap into a 2g. With the 1g cas and 2g coil pack you need to put the plug wires on different. Switch the #1/4 and #2/3 coil wires around, then you should be able to install the cas properly.

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

I assumed there was already a 6 bolt in this, just swapped in a different one. If it was a 7 bolt before you'll need to invert the CAS in link or swap the injector wires on the ECU.

Re: High Idle, CAS and HKS 272's
 

Yeah, it needs to come towards the front of the car. I do need to look over the plug wires once. They were correct when I dropped the car off, that doesn't mean shit though.