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Proof of concept: MBC + 3port BCS Hybrid
Caveat: I'm sure I'm not the first to ever try this. Full credit for this idea goes to Shane@DB Performance; he is always a bad influence :D
Theory: more boost = more power Stock turbos taper. Aftermarket turbos taper. How do you try and cut down taper? A BCS seems to do the trick! However, they can be a tish inconsistent, and boost onset is not always as smooth or as early as a MBC. I tried the stock solenoids and they didn't work. So instead, I got a Pierburg 3-port BCS from CBRD (thanks chad! adapter fits PERFECT), ditched my stock solenoids, and mounted this on their little mount. http://i.imgur.com/P8zbol.jpg Here's JUST a MBC vs a MBC+Stock solenoid hybrid on my BBX. I tried both before the MBC and after it with pretty similar results. Maybe 1psi extra boost up top. http://scheides.com/misc/pics/evox/e...st-control.JPG Now the 3-port. It is inline with the MBC, between the MBC outlet and the WGA, with the 3rd port 'venting' back to the intake. I'm only using 50% WGDC at 8000rpm so yea, there is some room to grow with this setup I think! http://scheides.com/misc/pics/evox/B...rid--boost.JPG Note the kinda reverse taper, almost self-induced boost creep if you will. It will hold 28 flat or 26 flat or do this 26/27 going up to 28.5 thing pretty easily. This is like the perfect setup: the ease of adjustment of a MBC with the boost holding power of a BCS up top. Tunability is fantastic. I will have to report back on how consistent it is. I just unplugged my secondary(passive) BCS and set all the tables to zero. No CEL yet. |
Re: Proof of concept: MBC + 3port BCS Hybrid
Nice flatter line.
What happens when you bump it back up to 30psi like it was in the initial comparisons? |
Re: Proof of concept: MBC + 3port BCS Hybrid
It's no mystery that it worked...the question is what is going to happen when you fiddle with the MBC?
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I imagine once I turn the boost up to 30+ I will start to see diminishing gains and if I spike to 35 I'm sure it will still ultimately taper. For anything other than absolute max effort though, I think this setup has a lot of merit. As long as my FMIC can keep up there should be some decent gains to be had from an extra pound or two of boost up top! |
Re: Proof of concept: MBC + 3port BCS Hybrid
Subscribing over here too! I'm interested to see where this ultimately goes. Good work there Scheides!
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Re: Proof of concept: MBC + 3port BCS Hybrid
Def. interested in this, as I'm looking into using the stock solenoid for my boost control.
Good work. |
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