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JET 03-16-2012 03:20 PM

Turbo/exhaust mani for my car
 
I am starting to dive in to figuring out which turbo and exhaust manifold I am going to buy. I was going to make an exhaust manifold and still may, but time is tight right now. Price isn't a major concern, but cheaper is always better.

So far I am looking at a Shearer tubular manifold with Vband output to a 6262 BB in the ported S housing. The 6262 is a little bigger than I really need, I am only looking for 500 whp at DB. I doubt the spool of the 5862 would be much different though and their smaller exhaust wheels are not billet as far as I have seen. If the 5858 was a billet exhaust wheel I would probably go for that.

I am gearing my car to be a near daily driver and an all around car. I love a spool below 4k, but I should be around 4200 with this setup I think. Car is an 8.8:1 2.4, big cams, will have a SMIM, big IC and 3" IC piping, 3.5" exhaust running E85.

I have been looking at the Borg Warner turbos a bit too, but am leaning towards the 6262.

turbotalon1g 03-16-2012 03:36 PM

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The 5858 has the new CEA exhaust wheel and is rated to 620, PTE seems to be rating their turbos conservatively these days as well.

If that is your true goal the 5858 should do that on corn, however shane did tune a SCM5857 on a 2.3, I think at 30psi it did 500whp on a dynojet, but you still have boost to play with.

93gtpeater 03-16-2012 03:38 PM

Re: Turbo/exhaust mani for my car
 
I would go with the 6262 they perform very well. theres a laser running around that made 500 at db. Hes running a 6262 set up with mild bolt ons.

JET 03-16-2012 03:39 PM

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They changed that recently then? Their website says the 5858 has a CEA compressor, but regular turbine, as well as anything I could find online referring to it.

evotuner 03-16-2012 04:44 PM

Re: Turbo/exhaust mani for my car
 
I'm "only" looking for 500whp hahahaha

Goat Blower 03-16-2012 04:44 PM

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For that power level, you don't need a tubular mani anymore, the FP cast mani and a Mitsu style turbine housing will do the trick with more reliability and less underhood heat. I was just having a few beers with Mike Rizzotti this week and he sold off his Shearer top mount and went back to the FP mani. He's still looking for around 600whp detuned. :D

turbotalon1g 03-16-2012 04:53 PM

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I would call them and ask about what CEA exhaust wheels they have, I know they do a 5862 as well. I might of made a mistake about the 58 CEA being a turbine wheel, but I know I read somewhere they had it/coming out soon and that was a couple of months ago.


That would be if you really want to keep the response, but if I had to choose I'd do the 6262 but then you would probably have a 600whp capability if you wanted it.

If you do a FP mani, then for sure 6262, if T3 then maybe the 5858/5862

Shane@DBPerformance 03-16-2012 05:10 PM

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I had a PTE 5557 billet make around 480awhp my numbers with stock intake manifold.

Speedfreak 03-16-2012 05:23 PM

Re: Turbo/exhaust mani for my car
 
Could choose the knockoff version of the Turbonetics(T3) cast mani I have. With E85 they are great, but on gas they'll boost creep into the upper 20's psi.

Kracka 03-16-2012 06:11 PM

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If you go the T3 route, this seems like a pretty sweet kit: http://www.maperformance.com/map-tub...p-dsm-tem.html

scheides 03-16-2012 06:33 PM

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I vote 5862. With the 2.4, the bigger turbine wheel will do wonders.

That MAP kit looks nice, everything in one package!

Shane@DBPerformance 03-16-2012 07:13 PM

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T3 will be laggier and 62 exhaust wheel will be laggier, so depends on how much lag you want.

Constant_Project21 03-16-2012 07:24 PM

Re: Turbo/exhaust mani for my car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evotuner (Post 401870)
I'm "only" looking for 500whp hahahaha

With the power cars make these days, "only" would be the appropriate term haha.

Think back 4-5 years ago, 500 wheel would be a pretty nuts street car. Now it seems there are more than a few running around.

Halon 03-16-2012 08:01 PM

Re: Turbo/exhaust mani for my car
 
If I was aiming for that power, I'd be all about keeping it simple myself. FP Manifold, some sort of bolt on turbo, etc. Pretty sure Kerry made ~550awhp at DB on a 2.4, FP mani, and SCM61 a couple years ago. He ou-tspooled my T3 S362 setup w/ SLS tubular mani, and made similar power.

scheides 03-16-2012 08:43 PM

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How about a FP Cast stock-placement maifold, FP HTA DSM82 bolt-on turbo and one of their custom o2 housings (or make your own?). Price is right and brad made damn good power on his old 2G:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/sho...&postcount=209

That was on a stock 6-bolt too!

scheides 03-16-2012 08:43 PM

Re: Turbo/exhaust mani for my car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 401888)
If I was aiming for that power, I'd be all about keeping it simple myself. FP Manifold, some sort of bolt on turbo, etc. Pretty sure Kerry made ~550awhp at DB on a 2.4, FP mani, and SCM61 a couple years ago. He ou-tspooled my T3 S362 setup w/ SLS tubular mani, and made similar power.

LOL, didn't even see this, great minds think alike :)

JET 03-16-2012 11:18 PM

Re: Turbo/exhaust mani for my car
 
Lots of good opinions guys, thanks! This is making me realize that I am building too big. Either I should drop some of my stuff down a notch (probably don't need 3.5" exhaust or 3" IC pipiing either) or raise my hp goal. I'll have to do some more thinking, but pretty sure I am leaning towards a 5858 in a mitsu housing and FP cast manifold now. It will save me some money and should easily meet my goals.

I really don't see myself needing much over 500-550 whp, I had 460 before I sold my stuff and I thought that was a blast. That was on an old style SCM61 with stock intake manifold.

CornFed2.4 03-17-2012 12:22 AM

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^^ seams like a solid plan, keep it simple and you should hit the goals you want with that turbo. Do you have an intercooler and that stuff already?

JET 03-17-2012 12:26 AM

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I have a huge garrett core that I was going to make custom end tanks for. I may just sell it and get something with tanks on already and go a bit smaller there too.

CornFed2.4 03-17-2012 12:46 AM

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Oh right on. I was gonna suggest the vrsf speed kit. Works good, is cheap and a full kit.


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