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CarPsyco84 11-28-2005 11:48 AM

T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
here is a question for the pro's. My buddy was lookin for a good sized turbo to maximize his stock motor. The T66 seems to be a good pick for the 3L 7MGTE. My question is what A/R ratio would be best for power from like 4k rpm to like 7, 7500rpm, I was thinking .81 A/R but maybe even .88?

niterydr 11-28-2005 01:07 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
http://www.suprasport.com/
Great turbo's!

CarPsyco84 11-28-2005 02:21 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
thanx, thats even better, get to keep stock hook up to the turbo....

Shane@DBPerformance 11-28-2005 03:18 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
.68 if you want it to spool by 4000-4500 with a P-trim exhaust wheel.

CarPsyco84 11-28-2005 11:29 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
cool thanx for the input, Got another question as long as were on these size turbos, whats the difference between P-trim and Q-trim and what effect does it have I think i've herd that p or q-trim cause slower spool, but I don't know why....

Shane@DBPerformance 11-29-2005 10:17 AM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
Q-trim is bigger than a P-trim, so it's a big laggier. The GTQ-trim versions aren't too bad though. A Q-trim over a P-trim can be worth worth up to more 50HP on a turbo that size.

CarPsyco84 11-29-2005 01:55 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
So one can assume that Q-trim flows more air, and would be for like higher RPM hp than a P-trim, but you sacrifice spool time?

Shane@DBPerformance 11-29-2005 02:46 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CarPsyco84
So one can assume that Q-trim flows more air, and would be for like higher RPM hp than a P-trim, but you sacrifice spool time?

Yea. But even a Q-trim is not anything all that huge in the Supra world. It all depends on how much power you want to make, how high you can rev the motor, and how much lag you want to put up with. A T67 with a P-trim is capable of around 700whp, a T66 should put out around the same.

Here is how Shaun's 3.0l Supra with a T67 P-trim .68 A/R spooled on the dyno. http://www.boostlogic.com/parts/supr...it67.html#dyno

niterydr 11-29-2005 03:57 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli
Yea. But even a Q-trim is not anything all that huge in the Supra world. It all depends on how much power you want to make, how high you can rev the motor, and how much lag you want to put up with. A T67 with a P-trim is capable of around 700whp, a T66 should put out around the same.

Here is how Shaun's 3.0l Supra with a T67 P-trim .68 A/R spooled on the dyno. http://www.boostlogic.com/parts/supr...it67.html#dyno

Wasn't that 689whp on a very unhealthy boost spike? (like 35psi?).
Still spools damm fast!

Shane@DBPerformance 11-29-2005 04:13 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
It was probably like 31-32psi, which is more than the VPC map sensor could read. It made 664whp at 29psi.

niterydr 11-29-2005 05:21 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
SWEET!
Yeah, John was saying how it spiked higher than the map sensor could read. Is he still going thru fuel problems with the ems? (I remember hearing something about that this summer).
664whp @ 29psi is no joke.

Shane@DBPerformance 11-29-2005 05:28 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
Yea, he did cams, springs, retainers, and AEM, but he had all kinds of problems with the fuel system and gave up on it for a while.

Super Bleeder!! 11-29-2005 06:35 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
he said SCREW IT and bought another ducati. considering his cash flow and his competitive nature i wouldn't be surprised if his car ended up with a gt42 on it in a few months.

niterydr 11-29-2005 06:50 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
Sweet, that'll make like 1/2 a dozen local imports with a gt42.

CarPsyco84 11-29-2005 10:07 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
when do the valves start to float on those supras anywase...

CarPsyco84 11-29-2005 11:55 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
hey, that dyno is on a 2JZGTE, I'm lookin for info on hte old school motor, the 7MGTE...

1ViciousGSX 11-30-2005 10:08 AM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CarPsyco84
when do the valves start to float on those supras anywase...

It really depends on what cams and springs are used.

Shane@DBPerformance 11-30-2005 10:46 AM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CarPsyco84
hey, that dyno is on a 2JZGTE, I'm lookin for info on hte old school motor, the 7MGTE...

Well, both are 3 liter motors and the 2JZ head isn't anything to write home about, so unless the 7MGTE is a total pile of crap(the intake manifold might be) the results should be somewhat similar.

CarPsyco84 11-30-2005 12:53 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX
It really depends on what cams and springs are used.

stock ones.... doesn't look like to many people rev past 6500 or 6800 on those motors...

1ViciousGSX 11-30-2005 12:54 PM

Re: T66 A/R? on 88' supra
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CarPsyco84
doesn't look like to many people rev past 6500 or 6800 on those motors...

Are you sure about that?


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