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Old 03-29-2009   #57
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Re: Obama losing his own supporters...

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Originally Posted by Halon View Post
Good point. Those that we went to war against were definitely some good folks that did nothing bad.
The point is having the proper information prior to dropping bombs. The terrorists were from Afghanistan but yet we bombed Iraq? sounds like someone got their coordinates mixed up. Sure Saddam needed to be handled, but when you market a war as a war on terrorism you should get the terrorists. Saddam didnt attack us, he killed his own people. Which we took over that job at the drop of a hat. GG now we are the new saddam.
Want to cut the spending? Bring the troops back, all of them. I was watching Bill Maher the other night and he said something that i knew but didnt realize to the extent it was happening. We still have troops in Germany and Japan. Why do we have them there? (serious question) They are not at war, they dont need our help in any way shape or form? But yet we spend countless dollars keeping troops in something like 150+ countries. Bring 60% of them home and think about how much savings that would create.
The public only hears about troops going to Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Mexico. But thats only a small amount of our Empire.

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In a perfect world, socialized health care may be a good thing. Too bad we don't live in a perfect world. The health care will not be free, YOU (and many others in the US) will be paying for it through more and more taxes, which is just what we need in times of a shit economy right? I don't get why people believe health care is a "right".
Its a small price to pay to the American public to be assured that you will be able to get care in times of sickness. As long as we appoint leaders that can put their own greed aside for the betterment of society as a whole, we can create a system that is a hybrid of a full socialized health care system. Such as making companies pay for their employees health care, and thus putting less stress on the government funds. Government would only pay for the unemployed peoples health care. We would spend money in Preventative health care so that it will cut more costly procedures that went untreated.
This is NOT new, Countries have done this for years and are doing just fine. On the Canada health care link, I really don't think its relevant because like all stories they have two sides, i.e. Matt D's link. You get one person who decides he doesn't like something so they make a website dedicated to it. But the general consensus is that socialized health care does work.
http://www.gadling.com/media/2007/07...reworldbig.jpg Here are the countries that currently have universal health care. notice what countries do not have it.... Yes we are grouped with third world countries on this one.
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