12-19-2010
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15min late to the world
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92 Talon Tsi
This is my fist fwd dsm, and its going to need a hand full of work to get this thing drivable. I bought the car on Monday night, and in the 2 days it took to get over there with gas and a dealer plate the AFC was stolen. So I jumped the maf wire and drove the thing home, the clutch does not release so I had to start the car in 1st and shift with out the clutch, which it did shift fine for the most part.
We managed to get the car into the garage last night and started to look it over, I already had a long list of issues when I looked at the car Monday.
Here is the list I know of now: The front suspension is done for, it bottoms out on everything and makes all sorts of banging and clunking noises, crappy lowering springs and blown out shocks. The lower alternator bolt is a home depot bolt with no nut, after hammering it back in it only worked its way out about 2" in 7miles. The water pump pulley was on backwards so it was eating the belt. the exhaust only had 1 nut holding it onto the o2 housing, and it was backed off about 1/2", so I took the m12x1.25 nut from the driver side motor mount and bolted that back up. Both front axels have blown out CV boots. The bolts holding the strut to the front knuckle were loose, and of the wrong size so they flopped around a lot. The front driver side break line was not attached to the strut and ended up under the drive side axel. The front motor mount cross bolt is missing the nut. The car was said to have a Evo 3 16g, but its just a normal mitsu big 16g. I see a few oil leaks that need to be fixed. When I looked at the car the starter was falling out, it was missing the top bolt and the bottom one was loose, and there is no spacer plate between the tranny and engine. The lug nuts are not the correct style, most of them are tapper seat nuts and the stock wheels are a shoulder style lug nut. The shifter cables are missing the proper clips to hold them on the brackets. The oil pressure gauge was not wired up at all, the sending unit is in the center counsel. The lower ball joints and tie rod ends need to be replaced. The exhaust needs to be fixed, it leaks all over and is dragging on the ground. There is a 2g TB elbo with some exhaust reducer to the stock 1g piping and a vented BOV. No PCV or crank vent lines hooked up. Its missing the metal plates that bolt onto the head for the timing belt cover. The clutch does not release, it seems to be a mix of clutch disk and hydraulics not working, a clutch maser and slave, new TO bearing, new clutch disk and pressure plate. The injectors were said to be PTE 550's, but they look like yellow top mitsu 550s. There are bare wires coming out of the fuse box on the passanger front fuse box, and a ton of extra wires under the dash.
I have a few ideas on what to do with the car. First I will fix everything that is wrong with the car, then either sell the Toyota I drive now or sell the dsm. If I keep the DSM I would have easy access to used parts for when stuff breaks, and it could be a fun car all said and done. There are only a few rust spots and I have access to the missing interior panels to make it more complete.
Here are some pics of the car:
about as much fail as you can contain in a small space.
More to come as I pull the tranny off today, then over the week put this back together and make it a drivable dsm.
~John
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12-19-2010
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Big Lake MN
Drives: 98 Eclipse GSX Auto
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
Wow how mutch did they pay you to take the car away? sounds like a mess of problems. But at least the cars in good hands now. If you need any parts let me know I have the starer plate(spacer) you need and good master and slave cly. I probly have alot of other stuff laying around . Good luck with the build
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12-19-2010
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15min late to the world
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
No I had to pay money for this thing, but not a hole lot. There are 2 starter plates in a box in the car, so I hope 1 is right. But ya if I need parts I will let you know for sure.
~John
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Moon taxi: 9.45@156.9 mph 41psi 2011... Letting people down sense 2012.
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12-19-2010
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
John, I also have a few parts, not sure what is universal between a FWD and AWD though. I do have 1g FWD suspension though, Eibach Prokits on some KYB's. It's rusty, but the stuff still works to the best of my knowledge.
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12-19-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
^he picked up the car for cheap, I'm sure he doesn't want to spend a lot on it.
I hope got this for real cheap, it sounds like a real pita, getting my cheap Dsm and spending money doing t-belt and random seals I realize cheap/free and turn into a decent coin real quick.
Good luck, I'll try and get that mas to you asap
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12-19-2010
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15min late to the world
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
Goodhart, pm me a price on the suspension, thanks. I do have a small budget, again this needs to drive nice in order for me to keep it, or to be able to sell it.
~John
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12-19-2010
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cottage Grove
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
Wow, this thing is a real basket case. Good luck getting it sorted out!
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12-19-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
Whoah, lots of DSMStyle in this pig!
I've said it a million times and I'll say it again, 1G w/ 16G + 550s + 2G MAS = most fun dsm setup evar!
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12-19-2010
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
You should have heard the phone call I go about 5.5 hours ago. If you though it was a basksetcase, think again. I'll call it a pile of fucked.
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12-19-2010
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The land of the next-gen HMMWV
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
wow, I really hope this thing was just about free, for your sake.
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12-19-2010
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aka Goodbye
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
I would've thought you would at least want an AWD piece of shit to throw a ton of money at.
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12-19-2010
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15min late to the world
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
It sure is turning into a part out fest, we will see what happens over the next couple days.
~John
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12-19-2010
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
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Originally Posted by Goat Blower
I would've thought you would at least want an AWD piece of shit to throw a ton of money at.
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He has one of those.
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12-20-2010
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15min late to the world
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
Zing...
For the most part this will be an epic fail, but I would like to keep this car on the road if possible. More to come after this week.
~John
PS, I am looking at a block with a broken off front ear, and cracked rear motor mount holes. There is hope yet, more to come over this week.
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Last edited by Pushit2.0; 12-21-2010 at 07:02 PM..
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12-20-2010
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aka Goodbye
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
Sounds like a few winners I've got laying around.
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12-20-2010
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: rochester mn
Drives: 92 talon awd
Posts: 101
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
I have a fwd cat back i will sell you for cheap.
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12-22-2010
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back in the saddle again
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
Crush it.
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12-22-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
^ good call.
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12-22-2010
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Tournaments Won: 3
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
GreaseMonkey Strikes again.
But dont worry, as per his ad on here " The car is in damn good shape for being close to 20 years old" http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28635
"Someone must want a nice and easy to repair winter project.." also from that thread.
Sorry john, i would have warned you had i saw that you were interested buying from him.
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Last edited by tpunx99GSX; 12-22-2010 at 02:00 PM..
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12-22-2010
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15min late to the world
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Re: 92 Talon Tsi
I am up to date on Greasemonkey, his add was a little over the top, but most of this stuff he did not do.
It just turns out the person who did the motor work did the biggest hack job possible. I have another 6 bolt motor I am looking in to, or I have parts to put a motor together.
The engine was rebuilt at some point, but nothing was done right, nothing was torqued properly, the bearings, rings, cylinders, and crank shaft are toast after xxxx miles. And its all stock 6 bolt parts, no 2g pistons etc, no washers under the stock head bolts, the timing belt was no were near right, but some how it ran, the motor had hardly any compression, the cylinder "cross" hatch is horizontal, no were near the 45deg its supposed to be. There were missing bolts in the oil pan and rear main seal housing.
The list goes on, but if I can get it up and running soon, then sell the Toyata I drive now I would back were I started money wise anyways.
~John
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