05-12-2005
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brooklyn Park, MN
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afc and tuning
Who is the best place for your money to get you car tuned? Chris gave me Shindleys email but he never responded, is there a phone # I can reach him at? Also where is the best place to buy electronics like an afc, ebay, or is there a local place I can get one?
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Wisconsin
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Re: acf and tuning
acf? or you mean afc? Yeah you can get them off ebay. I've sold a couple of them on there for $150 ea. not too long ago. If you decide to get one off ebay, do a search on s-afc If you do it on acf you won't find didly.
Good luck.
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05-12-2005
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
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Re: acf and tuning
Just go to Elite and pay to have Shane tune it on the dyno.
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
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Re: acf and tuning
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Just go to Elite and pay to have Shane tune it on the dyno.
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Yeah, that is the best choice, but then they'll also have to pay to have the VC swapped and that combined with tuning can get pretty pricey. Schindley won't give you the best tune for power, but at least the car will be plenty driveable and decent. If you feel confident about swapping in a welded VC yourself by all means have the car dynotuned instead. I'd offer to do it on the street for you since you live so close to me, but dumbass me went and put the batteries in my Palm backwards and corupted my Pocketlogger software. After reinstalling it, I realized I no longer have the registration codes for it since I sold the logger and cable.
Anyways, here is Schindley's number: (763) 263-2713
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Minneapolis
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Re: acf and tuning
Why even bother getting the VC swapped? Just go to the AWD dyno @ RS Motors.
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05-12-2005
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At-Least-It's-White-Again
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Re: acf and tuning
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Originally Posted by dsm10sec
Why even bother getting the VC swapped? Just go to the AWD dyno @ RS Motors.
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Good idea! They are so great at tuning DSMs.
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Br0k3N
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Dirty Savage Kid
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Re: acf and tuning
::EDIT:: happy? Chill out. And further more, would you prefer someone like shane tuning ( proven himself to be a swell tuner) or some person not NEARLY familiar with the cars?
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
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Re: acf and tuning
I'd have to agree, RS Motors hasn't proven that they can tune DSMs yet.
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Originally Posted by 90lazerRST
thats not a real AWD dyno anyways.
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Please tell everyone why that is not a real AWD dyno.
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"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." -Mario Andretti
03 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tachyon
Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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Br0k3N
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Dirty Savage Kid
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Re: acf and tuning
im pretty sure 1 set that rolls just ROLLS, doesnt measure anything. I wouldn't feel right dynoing my car there, so I couldn't prove anything. My friend said that the one set rolls free just making it easier to throw on an AWD.
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Minneapolis
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Re: acf and tuning
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Originally Posted by NonTurboSpoolinGuest
Good idea! They are so great at tuning DSMs.
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As with ANY shop, I won't let them touch jack. I do my own tuning, which is probably why I don't care how crappy they are at tuning or what they specialize in.
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
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Re: acf and tuning
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Originally Posted by dsm10sec
As with ANY shop, I won't let them touch jack. I do my own tuning, which is probably why I don't care how crappy they are at tuning or what they specialize in.
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So how fast is your car really?
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I agree with Kracka.
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Re: acf and tuning
It is a widely know fact that Mustang dynos read lower than Dynojets; does that make the Mustang dyno inaccurate or is it your ricer benchracing self that just assumes that since it won't make you look quite as manly? For God's sake, Matt already spelled it out for you, would a picture help?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brooklyn Park, MN
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Re: acf and tuning
Thanks Matt and Chris....
How much roughly would you say a dyno tune at elite usually costs for an awd?
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Now 1 second.....slower!
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: St. Paul, MN
Drives: 1993 Talon AWD
Posts: 1,359
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Re: acf and tuning
Good question! I was just about to ask that... ! I'm planning on having my car tuned by them in the near future also...
Just gonna interrupt this thread really quick. When installing an AFC...do you need to solder anything together? Found two sites on installing an AFC: ONE from Vfaq and ONE from Plymouthlaser.com. PM me....
Back to Main Topic...
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05-13-2005
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: MN
Drives: four tires
Posts: 1,608
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Re: acf and tuning
VC swap(AWD guys) - $150
Tuning - $140/hr, time would depend on your setup...
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05-13-2005
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Now 1 second.....slower!
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: St. Paul, MN
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Re: acf and tuning
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Originally Posted by Speedfreak
VC swap(AWD guys) - $150
Tuning - $140/hr, time would depend on your setup...
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So it's $150 just for the swap itself and another $140/hr for the tuning? WOW.....
Aww man! My car is getting $$$$$$$$$$$$$.....Anyone wanna plan a bank heist? Hehe...j/k!!!
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05-13-2005
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: acf and tuning
When installing the AFC, you don't need to solder the wires. I always used aligator clamps or whatever they're called and had no problems. I've also installed AFC's in others' cars with the clamps and not one has every given trouble.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
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Re: acf and tuning
You can use the little crimps that come with the AFC. Just don't use those plastic quick connect/vampire T's that just tap into the wire. They are just a problem waiting to happen and I have to fix them on cars all the time. They are fine something trivial like the light bulb on your boost gauge, but I would want a good solid connection for something as important as your fueling. I usually solder the wires when doing an AFC.
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05-13-2005
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Banana Hammock!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hastings
Drives: Shitbox
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Re: acf and tuning
Well the considering a certain amount of voltage or signal could be lost by a bad crimp or other horsecock connection, I would ALWAYS solder those wires. Especially since it is something as important as an AFC.
Now I know people have done it with those shitty crimp style connectors, and it works, but you never know. And why not spend an extra two minutes and solder it.
I work in mobile electronics, going on my fourth year, and I have seen countless malfunctions from poor connections, always crimp style. With solder all you have to worry about is getting a cold joint, and that can be easy to find if you have touched a soldering iron before.
And on the real topic, if you are very confident in your tuning abilities you may just want to save money and go to RS motors. Otherwise just have Shane do it, he won't blow up your motor and can offer a lot of great advice and help.
And about the dyno thing, I put down 313hp at RS motors, and maybe a month later with no changes to the setup I put down 321hp at Elite. Sure sounds like thsoe corrections are right on to me. And yes Ron always asks for the weight of the car before dynoing, but that mainly will effect where the turbo will spool due to load. But it can also effect total hp.
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05-13-2005
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At-Least-It's-White-Again
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Re: acf and tuning
You can do the swap yourself and save the $150!
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