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Thor06 · 06-26-2006

I've never seen a mind-fucked alchoholic. Any of my friends that smoke pot regularly for a few years are already a lot slower than they used to be. Alcohol isnt much better than weed, but atleast with alcohol you cant really drink yourself stupid.

Tauni · 06-26-2006

[QUOTE=sleepy2lazy].....easier to control, and easier to make certain that its safer. [QUOTE]

Not entirely true, I'd say. I would say comparing when I have drank to when I have smoked, I have less control when I drink. I have only blacked out once drinking, but I still have much less control, and don't know as much of what I am doing. When I smoke, I always know exactly what I am doing and have never forgotten what I did while I was high.

For example, driving. You should never drive under the influence of either, but when you have to, its much safer to drive high than drunk. When you are high you are more alert and you are more focused. When you are drunk you are swerving and just all out retarded. So I don't really agree with this statement.

Black97civic · 06-26-2006

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Originally Posted by sleepy2lazy

and easier to make certain that its safer.

How do you figure?? I know of at least half a dozen kids from my college that had to go to the hospital, or that died from alcohol poisoning last year alone. How is that any safer than pot?

The dangerous thing about pot isn't the drug, but the black market behind it. 99% of the problems with weed would go away if they sold it at liquor stores to people over 21, and had the same rules as far as DUI and whatnot. That gets rid of the drug trafficking across borders, gets rid of drug dealers, etc.

**Halon** · 06-26-2006

That's the ticket! Let's lower the crime rate by making all the illegal things legal!

Black97civic · 06-26-2006

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Originally Posted by ju-on

Let's lower the crime rate by making all the illegal things legal!

Where did I say anything about making all illegal things legal? I said pot should be sold like alcohol. How would it be any worse, seriously, I really want to know how.

HaredX · 06-26-2006

Blue is exactly right. Does anyone recall prohibition? When they made alcohol illegal the mafia started bringing it in illegally which caused the crime rate to sky rocket because they were killing off anyone that got in their way, then when it became legal again it cut out the black market and crime rate plummeted. Not only is it more safe to drive under the influence of pot, you can't overdose from pot like you can from alcohol so why should pot be any more illegal than alcohol? It shouldn't. The government could sell marijuana, tax the hell out of it and raise money for anything we need instead of spending BILLIONS of dollars trying to prevent it.

**Halon** · 06-26-2006

While we're at it, let's adopt Colombia as our 51st state to really bank on the deal!

And why spend money on getting therapy for rape victims and prosecuting their offenders, let's legalise that too. They got my vote! I'm telling ya, the answer is to just make illegal things legal, and we're set.

Black97civic · 06-26-2006

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Originally Posted by ju-on

While we're at it, let's adopt Colombia as our 51st state to really bank on the deal!

And why spend money on getting therapy for rape victims and prosecuting their offenders, let's legalise that too. They got my vote! I'm telling ya, the answer is to just make illegal things legal, and we're set.

Let's try this one more time, I didn't say lets legalize everything. I said lets treat pot like alcohol, with rules for consumption and sales. Please point out some reasons why we should not.

And this time, try not to say "Yeah, lets legalize everything OMGWTFBBQ!!!11!" because that argument really doesn't get to far.

HaredX · 06-26-2006

Don't even try Blue, everyone here is so stuck on being right about everything that they put words into everyone's mouths to better their argument. They took me saying that I smoke pot and have 2 successful jobs as me saying that everyone should smoke and love drugs

A//// Guy · 06-26-2006

If you legalize pot then people will only turn to something else that is the "cool" thing to do... like meth.

Mexico just adopted a whole crapload of drugs as being legal over there... so take a road trip

And I still think smoking is wrong and wont open up to it being a "good thing."

AJ · 06-26-2006

Yup, you're right. No question about it. You see things so clean and clear you should run for political office.

I just don't get how you call everyone close minded, but yet your mind is just as closed to everyone else opinions. If this is all you wish to argue over just leave and forget the web address.

Black97civic · 06-26-2006

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Originally Posted by M/// Guy

If you legalize pot then people will only turn to something else that is the "cool" thing to do... like meth.

Well, then we should make everything illegal, and then the cool things will be alcohol and cigarettes, since the only reason people do hard drugs is because those are legal.

You don't have to like pot, or think that drugs are good, but there is a big difference between drinking or smoking pot, and stealing TV's to buy crack. I would definately have to disagree with your idea that the only thing that is keeping stoners from turning into crackheads is the fact that pot is still cool because it is illegal.

BOVADDICT · 06-26-2006

they wont legalize pot because they make more money off it being illegal then if they made it legal and everyone knows it..

I will admit it would be safer and a better decision.. but only for those who smoked it.. people who dont dont care about curruption and bad deals. They dont care your nug has worms in it or is laced w/o telling you. They dont care about shit. For the people who smoke pot or only dont because its illegal it would be great because MUCH safer, no ripping kids off for amazing amounts, grow quality would be greater and more consistent. Would be nice. Should just be legal to grow

the plant i find VERY pretty if you know what your doing and have the rght strain. Anyway.. car forum talking about drugs.. your not goig to get the results your looking for. Peace..

BOVADDICT · 06-26-2006

oh ya you people on here COMPLETELY blowing stuff out of proporion is fuckin childish. theres a point and you guys are just being rediculous and you know it. not funny though.. sorry.

94talonawd · 06-26-2006

Just stop smoking stuff and drink more!

1slowdsm · 06-26-2006

With alcohol the person consuming it, in a responsible manner, is the person who's getting the buzz or getting drunk off of it. With pot, its smoke and smoke doesnt just stay in one spot. Everyone in the area might get a little high off of the smoke when they dont want to, but they have no choice. If you make pot legal just like alcohol and go to a sports game there will be people drinking and smoking pot and blowing the smoke into the air where hundreds of people have to deal with the smell. I know I wouldnt want my kids being around pot, especially at a sports game. Plus I'm sure Congress doesnt want to see people "choking" up on city streets. The SuperPower nation of the World....smoking it up. :s lol.

AJ · 06-26-2006

I think this thread killed any shot we had of landing that big sponsor some knew about. LOL!

sleepy2lazy · 06-26-2006

[QUOTE=T-T-Tauni][QUOTE=sleepy2lazy].....easier to control, and easier to make certain that its safer.

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Not entirely true, I'd say. I would say comparing when I have drank to when I have smoked, I have less control when I drink. I have only blacked out once drinking, but I still have much less control, and don't know as much of what I am doing. When I smoke, I always know exactly what I am doing and have never forgotten what I did while I was high.

For example, driving. You should never drive under the influence of either, but when you have to, its much safer to drive high than drunk. When you are high you are more alert and you are more focused. When you are drunk you are swerving and just all out retarded. So I don't really agree with this statement.

Sure alcohol is easier to control. If your just smoking to take a hit, how far can you control the high that is messing you up. If your drinking, you can limit yourself much easier by taking less.

Your example isn't really making your point clear.

sleepy2lazy · 06-26-2006

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Originally Posted by Blue89Quest

How do you figure?? I know of at least half a dozen kids from my college that had to go to the hospital, or that died from alcohol poisoning last year alone. How is that any safer than pot?

The dangerous thing about pot isn't the drug, but the black market behind it. 99% of the problems with weed would go away if they sold it at liquor stores to people over 21, and had the same rules as far as DUI and whatnot. That gets rid of the drug trafficking across borders, gets rid of drug dealers, etc.

You see, those kids that went to your college etc.. that you pointed out abused it. From what you say, looks like your coming from the side of alcohol / pot being abused.

As i said, Alcohol is easier to make certain that its safer.
The Marijuana that people smoke, buying it off the streets. Who knows where it really came from? Them drugs aren't as clean as the alcohol that comes from the factories.

HaredX · 06-26-2006

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Originally Posted by BOVADDICT

they wont legalize pot because they make more money off it being illegal then if they made it legal and everyone knows it..

Stupidest sentence I've ever read. At this exact moment we are spending $24,826,170,739 to make it illegal, how in the hell do you think the government is making more money then they are spending?

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Originally Posted by 1slowdsm

Everyone in the area might get a little high off of the smoke when they dont want to, but they have no choice.

First of all, if you know anything about pot you know that you have to be EXTREMELY close to someone smoking it in a horribly ventilated area in order to even get remotely high from second-hand smoke. Secondly, second-hand marijuana smoke is FAR less harmful then tobacco smoke yet tobacco is legal. And your sporting event analogy is just retarded, tobacco isn't allowed at a sport stadiums and I'm sure marijuana wouldn't be either if it were legal, there are ways you can control it if legalized that would be much more cost-efficient and safe then keeping it illegal.