02-04-2009
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
Or, keep the F20C in the S2000!
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I agree with Kracka.
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02-04-2009
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#202
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
wow lets hope for sub 20k! I'll take a an r spec still 
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02-05-2009
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
So I found an online service manual for this, and things don't look good for the block design. It will use 2 bolt mains, and I'm not totally sure yet, but it's possible it's an open deck design. So that means they probably just threw some different rods and pistons, and oil squirters in a non turbo block and called it good enough.
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02-05-2009
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
Thats not good 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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02-05-2009
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
eh, it'll still be awesome. The thing is, the bolt patterns will probably be the same for the bellhousing. The motor mounts will most likely work from engine to engine, so a 4b11t swap (I bet) will be a pretty straight forward operation. Plus, it'll be an adventure to find the limits of the stock block!
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02-05-2009
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flips McGee
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
Ghey.
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02-05-2009
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Banned
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
aww, such pessimism. Be happy! a turbo 4 banger rwd coupe. When was the last time we had such a sweet car? (my guess is about 1982-1989, booyah!)
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02-05-2009
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
The Evo X motor is open deck and the 4G63s are 2 bolt mains.
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02-05-2009
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
Isn't the Evo X 4B11T a semi-closed designed basically meaning a reinforced open deck?
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I agree with Kracka.
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02-05-2009
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
I know the 4g63s are 2 bolt mains, but I thought the EvoX motor was semi-closed deck? I still plan on getting one if I like the way it drives, and I'm not too worried about the block cuz I don't plan on making a ton of power anyways.
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02-05-2009
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Pewp Champion
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
I think the point was simply that it's not looking like it's the EVO 4b11t.
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02-05-2009
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
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I think the point was simply that it's not looking like it's the EVO 4b11t.
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Yeah, that was my main point. I think this motor should still support 400whp easily. Appearantly these blocks are similar to the ones in the new Caliber SRT4, and there's people making 500whp on the stock internals.
If anyone else is interested in the service manual website, it's: http://www.hmaservice.com/ You have to create an account, but it's free to use.
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02-05-2009
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formerly ecoli
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
Looks like 2.5 bar MAP sensors from the manuals, which are good for 20-22psi. And high impendance injectors.
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02-05-2009
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formerly ecoli
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
Returnless fuel system.
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02-05-2009
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Pewp Champion
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
I think I'll keep my Talon.
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02-05-2009
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
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Originally Posted by ecoli
Looks like 2.5 bar MAP sensors from the manuals, which are good for 20-22psi. And high impendance injectors.
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Gay...
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Originally Posted by ecoli
Returnless fuel system.
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Gayer...
This car is heading in the same direction as Spaz and the Rubber Fist!
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cmspaz: Someone buys me a rubber fist, and I'll rock it on my hood.
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02-06-2009
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Is funding Exxon.
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
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Returnless fuel system.
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Ouch, that one sucks. I didn't think the rest was too bad. I thought they were making this mod friendly?
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My motorcycle is stock and reliable, my Talon is neither!
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02-06-2009
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
Why is a returnless fuel system so bad? Does that mean trying to run larger injectors is much more difficult?
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I agree with Kracka.
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02-06-2009
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
^^ I was wondering that too. I would think that as long as the fuel rail sees the same pressure, it wouldn't really matter if the fuel is constantly flowing through. I could see it being difficult to run a larger fuel pump though. But at the same time, I wonder if it would really need a large pump since it wouldn't have to work as hard to maintain pressure.
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02-06-2009
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#220
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
This car fail.t
Not really just making good excuses to not want one. lol
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