well my talon hates my evo III swap

[dumb_ricer]

Originally Posted by M/// Guy

I used an 2600 for 10K+ and it wore away my pedal assembly and it also wouldnt engage because the fingers would not fully release. Replaced it for a southbend that held harder, and was more comfortable on my leg.

ACT have had nothing but problems, and if you look around on some of the dsm forums, you'll find the exact problem that happened in the first post.

I really don't want to get into clutches too much, but I tend to disbelieve your statement on holding harder AND being more comfortable on your leg. And how did the fingers not fully release? Could you explain what was blocking them from fully releasing? Of course you will see the same problem happening on other forums. When 90 percent of DSM's run ACTs, and your using a sprung hub that is for "street" use and make 500whp, you are going to run into problems, plain and simple. Find out the percentage of ACT problems to other clutch brand problems by amount of people using them, and see what failure rates are. Then talk.

Clutches cannot have a soft pedal effort and have a high clamp force on a clutch disk. It is NOT possible. Sure, you can move the "pivot" point on the fingers in or out a little bit, but not enough to be able to say it holds harder and is more comfortable on a leg. You can also use a different clutch disk material, which southbend seems to be doing with some success.

Seems to me like most people have gone wayyyyy faster on a ACT clutch in a DSM than any other clutch. Anything to disprove this theory?

Any exactly what vehicle did you use a "Competition" brand clutch in?

[tim]

Originally Posted by dumb_ricer

Seems to me like most people have gone wayyyyy faster on a ACT clutch in a DSM than any other clutch. Anything to disprove this theory?

Says who? Lets see your proof on the whole fast dsm act clutch theory. They are good clutches, dont get me wrong, but you should post as much proof as you expect him to.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by dumb_ricer

Any exactly what vehicle did you use a "Competition" brand clutch in?

I assume this was directed towards me, I drove a Stage 2 Competition in a S2000; the pedal preasure was lighter than stock and it engaged nice and solid.

Of course people have gone faster using ACT, its b/c there are far more in use since they were pretty much the only clutch available until recently that could hold big power; this is simple statistics. IMO, using a lighter preasure plate with a higher friction coef. disc is a much better design than a heavy preasure plate with an OEM-style disc. Enough of this though, everyone has their own opinions regarding clutch choices and its probably been covered at least 20 times on this board. Everyone should use what they like, what they are comfortable with, and what they can afford.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by dumb_ricer

Clutches cannot have a soft pedal effort and have a high clamp force on a clutch disk. It is NOT possible. Sure, you can move the "pivot" point on the fingers in or out a little bit, but not enough to be able to say it holds harder and is more comfortable on a leg. You can also use a different clutch disk material, which southbend seems to be doing with some success.

Have you driven a car with a Southbend clutch? They hold just as much torque if not more than an ACT equivelant, and are a TON easier on your leg. After driving both I swear by Southbend, as do a handful of people on here.