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View Poll Results: Where do I go from here? (now that all of the children have grown up...)
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Build the X
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No one wants a $60k evo with high monthly payments, get out now and buy a 9.
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07-22-2010
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#1
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I thought so, I lol'd.
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07-23-2010
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#2
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Initial Black numbers from the 3rd tester...
Here is what they posted:
Initial update,,,
17psi with 93pump--- 382hp..... this is going to be fun.
Got too late to continue on... A fresh set of plugs and back to the dyno we go!!
Spool-up was better than I anticipated,,, I think we touched 17psi @ 3800 or so,,, I'll post a log shortly.
First thing I noticed was having to add additional fuel from the previous FpRed tune to keep afr's identical,, a very good sign of things to come.
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07-23-2010
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#3
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
First thing I noticed was having to add additional fuel from the previous FpRed tune to keep afr's identical,, a very good sign of things to come.
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If the car still has a MAF, there is no reason they should have had to add fuel, unless they fixed something else or the old tune was screwed up. The MAF will compensate for a more airflow like a bigger turbo. You can usually put cams into an Evo and the A/Fs will be pretty much exactly the same even if it gains 40whp.
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07-23-2010
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#4
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Are you going to be at DB this afternoon at all? Let's pull the end of that one rod off the crank :P
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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07-23-2010
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#5
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by scheides
Are you going to be at DB this afternoon at all? Let's pull the end of that one rod off the crank :P
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I am, but I can't stay long...I was going to take a long lunch...I need to stop by MAP quick and grab the rod bearings then I have those, my new SSP MC (want my old one  ) and the SSP relay pack to drop off.
I will probably take an hour and a half for lunch or so around 1:30. What time you guys going there?
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07-23-2010
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#6
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Hmmm, true that. I am pretty sure it is still on the stock ECU. Perhaps they did a 3.5" intake though in anticipation of the MAF maxing.
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07-23-2010
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#7
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Danny was kind enough to check the bearing on the rod that snapped, it was all good...so it was not an oiling issue at all. Just power, it happens. Makes me feel good though, so mystery solved.
Stopped up at DB (obviously, since the above statement)...dropped off the new cosworth rod bearings (now DB can start putting in the new rods/pistons and get the show on the road) my new SSP master cylinder rev 2 and the SSP relay pack which replaces a bunch of relays that can possibly fail.
They changed around some stuff and have a new engine building room where the office used to be, its nice. I got to see the new AMS spec JE pistons too...Scheides/Kracka/Spaz were all there too by the way for Kracka's tune...Scheides suggest i take some pics of the pistons so here you go...
Nothing too crazy, but I love to see new stuff
My head is basically done, they had to get a few new shim buckets so they are still waiting on that, shouldn't be too much longer. The tune on the 6th of August is optimistic, but you never know, we will see what happens next week, should be lots of progress hopefully.
Hmmm, think thats about it for updates.
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07-23-2010
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#8
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I wonder if they are any different? lol.
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The tune on the 6th of August is optimistic, but you never know, we will see what happens next week, should be lots of progress hopefully.
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Given that your engine was removed from the car, I'd put your odds at zero. Unless workload has improved at DB.
I bought my car at a good time last year: August. I think that skewed my expectations.
Last edited by mlomker; 07-23-2010 at 07:13 PM..
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07-23-2010
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#9
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I asked Danny and he said maybe, it all depends on if they can work undisturbed...that is the real problem.
Right now I am just hoping for a mid august finish date. I've accepted the 6th will be tough, not zero chance though I don't think because they have two weeks and it should only be like 2 solid days of work to finish if they were completely undisturbed banging it out (which won't happen). Like I said, we will just have to wait and see.
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07-23-2010
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#10
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
The dishes seem to be deeper on the AMS ones. I bet they are similar but I am sure they aren't the same.
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07-23-2010
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#11
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
The dishes seem to be deeper on the AMS ones.
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Shane had mentioned when installing mine that the dishes seemed pretty deep. If AMS went further then the odds of valves hitting are awful low.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
not zero chance
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Like I said, 'unless workload has improved'. It's getting to be late July but I don't know when the downhill slide begins. I have only been a part of this world for 11 months, not even a whole year.
Last edited by mlomker; 07-23-2010 at 07:43 PM..
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07-23-2010
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#12
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I would think someone would've noticed by now if they were the same piston, lol. There are plenty of tuners that have used both I am sure...but who knows, it wouldn't surprise me. I am pretty sure these are the same setups both shops used for their evo 8/9 pistons.
Either way they should both be good for all the power we plan on making 
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07-23-2010
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#13
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
You should show up at an event one of these days. I'll have you take my car for a spin. I'm pretty impressed with the last few mods...driveshaft bushings and the alignment/corner balance.
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07-23-2010
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#14
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I have avoided going to events just because it just makes me miss the car even more, lol. Not that reading forums helps but that helps pass time at work
When you going up to DB next? I will be dropping the FPblack off there soon if you are dropping your car off up there, coordination perhaps.
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07-26-2010
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#15
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
From Robert today
We did finish the line on friday, making some up today, can send out your turbo today also.
R
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07-28-2010
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#16
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Still haven't gotten a tracking number yet, they charged my credit card though, so I assume FP has shipped me the black
I also emailed Shane today curiously about breaking in the motor when the time comes, what kind of boost levels we can run...MAP sensor stuff...etc etc.
After one of his responses I couldn't help but type, "just curious, did they start on the rods/pistons yet?" I was going to wait until friday or monday to ask, but since i was already exchanging emails with shane i figured i would eek that in.
He replied...
All the clearances on your motor have been measured and checked and the rings filed, the rods/pistons are going in now. We should have the head back today or tomorrow.
So it sounds like it is moving along perfectly! They move good once they have all the parts I guess, lol 
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07-28-2010
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#17
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hutch
Drives: Evo VIII and 96' Buick Park Ave
Posts: 2,595
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
Still haven't gotten a tracking number yet, they charged my credit card though, so I assume FP has shipped me the black
I also emailed Shane today curiously about breaking in the motor when the time comes, what kind of boost levels we can run...MAP sensor stuff...etc etc.
After one of his responses I couldn't help but type, "just curious, did they start on the rods/pistons yet?" I was going to wait until friday or monday to ask, but since i was already exchanging emails with shane i figured i would eek that in.
He replied...
All the clearances on your motor have been measured and checked and the rings filed, the rods/pistons are going in now. We should have the head back today or tomorrow.
So it sounds like it is moving along perfectly! They move good once they have all the parts I guess, lol 
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LOL. I did the exact same thing.
good luck on getting it done soon! We'll have the line em' up after we both get our final tunes. Black vs Black. 
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07-28-2010
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#18
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FLOSSEN
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Plymouth
Drives: 2011 corolla turbo S
Posts: 764
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by 311evo
LOL. I did the exact same thing.
good luck on getting it done soon! We'll have the line em' up after we both get our final tunes. Black vs Black. 
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I got moeny on the VIII
Sorry Dave 
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07-28-2010
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#19
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by t-revzr
I got moeny on the VIII
Sorry Dave 
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It's ok, but remember I have a fully ported head and nice new big cams  It will be a fun race for sure, i guess wait til we dyno to see whats up 
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07-28-2010
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#20
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hutch
Drives: Evo VIII and 96' Buick Park Ave
Posts: 2,595
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
It's ok, but remember I have a fully ported head and nice new big cams  It will be a fun race for sure, i guess wait til we dyno to see whats up 
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same here, chief. hehe. I guess this is my official call-out.
The dyno won't tell us who will win or lose, keep that in mind.
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