March for health care!

[blackrosenova400]

What really pisses me off are people who expect to have healthcare pay for there abortions. Wtf! Why should I have to pay for some piece of shit person who wants to murder an innocent baby.

Why should I have to support something I believe to be cruel and horribly wrong!

[iceminion]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

Bipartisanship is retarded. 65% of US households opposed this bill and it passed anyway. This country is going to hell in a handbasket.

I highly doubt 65% of households oppose this, speaking to many people in my community, they are all waiting for the government to stop the stranglehold our healthcare system has over us, which is what this bill really accomplishes.

We copied "cash for clunkers" from Germany(and other European countries) and we are attempting to copy the healthcare model they use for their healthcare. Both examples are of things that -WORK-

We are not all entitled to free healthcare, but we all pay taxes, even if we don't want to, therefore the government is expected to help all tax payers out by protecting us from monopolies of mega-corporations.

Originally Posted by blackrosenova400

What really pisses me off are people who expect to have healthcare pay for there abortions. Wtf! Why should I have to pay for some piece of shit person who wants to murder an innocent baby.

Why should I have to support something I believe to be cruel and horribly wrong!

Well, when bush pulled federal funding for sexual awareness in our public school systems, the rate of teen pregnancy shot up dramatically.

I really think its wrong of you to comment on abortion without acknowledging the fact that we set our children up for failure by not talking about sex, thus resulting in massive unwanted teen pregnancy.

Abortion is bad, we should spend all our time and effort on preventing it ever coming to this. Think about how many failures it takes to push a teen to get an abortion. Parents fail to put the girl on birth control, parents and our education system fail to explain sex=babies, we fail to openly make sure everyone has a condom, we disown our daughters if they get knocked up....We, push teen mothers to abortion and then hate them when they feel they have no other choice.

I for one fully support this bill, the republicans passed their crazy homeland security/patriot act bills, which are far worse then anything the democrats will pass.

1 Trillion in additional health spending is a fraction of what we spend on our pointless war in iraq, also it saves lives.

If this bill is really as bad as all the nay-sayers say it is, I am sure it will be revised/repealed in a timely manner.


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[blackrosenova400]

Im sorry Mary, I should have told you having sex would cause you to be pregnant with an unwanted child, says the father to his daughter. Dont worry says the father to his daughter, lets make the american public pay for your mistake, and have that baby sucked right out of you since mistakes should have no consequences! But wait! It really isnt your fault since your were not educated.

What failure is there by the rise of teen pregnancy? Whats truley a failure is when a family cannot work together to raise the child, parents and the mother of the child alike. So lets teach our children the wasy way out of life and kill it, and make the american population pay for it.

I woudlnt speak about saving lives if your supporting abortion.

Originally Posted by iceminion

Well, when bush pulled federal funding for sexual awareness in our public school systems, the rate of teen pregnancy shot up dramatically.

I really think its wrong of you to comment on abortion without acknowledging the fact that we set our children up for failure by not talking about sex, thus resulting in massive unwanted teen pregnancy.

I for one fully support this bill, the republicans passed their crazy homeland security/patriot act bills, which are far worse then anything the democrats will pass.

1 Trillion in additional health spending is a fraction of what we spend on our pointless war in iraq, also it saves lives.

And I am sure if it is really as bad as all the nay-sayers say it is, I am sure it will be revised/repealed in a timely manner.

[iceminion]

Originally Posted by blackrosenova400

...I woudlnt speak about saving lives if your supporting abortion.

I would rather one child pass away then both (mother/baby) perish from a back-alley abortion.

One FACT that no pro-life person wants to talk about is in countries/situations where abortion is banished/illegal: Abortions still happen.

A soon-to-be mother who cannot have a baby -WILL- abort the fetus, this is not my opinion, this is fact, I would rather she survive the operation, if she uses a coat hanger she is likely to die too.

I do not celebrate abortion, I do not want it, but so long as it is available, then people who are motivated to save un-born babies will have to actually work hard at preventing teen pregnancies, and also offering other services for unwanted babies.


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Look, I know you probably don't want to hear any conversation from someone who thinks abortion should be legal, and I understand your point of view. You don't need to spend time convincing me that it is wrong, why don't you ponder why abortion is still legal, it is because after countless hours of debate by professionals/senators/doctors/psychiatrists/mothers/daughters....after all the debate they decided that is a good idea to keep abortion.

You don't need to argue this point with me, because right now there are more people like me, and less people like you, and therefore the majority is going to make the rules.

Rather argue with me about something you wish didn't exist why don't you volunteer to work in a teen clinic? when a girl gets pregnant that is usually where they go to inquire about the future of her child, if you spend time informing her of what other options she has (adoption) then you can feel good that you saved a life.

I have spent a bunch of time articulating my thoughts on the matter and I have highlighted some very important points that will probably go unnoticed, therefore I feel I have done my part.

[blackrosenova400]

Who said no Pro-Life people dont want to talk about countries/situations about where abortions happen illegally? Of course it still happns, at least the citizens know its wrong, and dont have to pay for illegal and disguting activity.

Lets make stealing legal, but just a little bit. Id rather have someone steal just a little bit and get away with it than steal alot.

I would rather one child pass away then both (mother/baby) perish from a back-alley abortion.

One FACT that no pro-life person wants to talk about is in countries/situations where abortion is banished/illegal: Abortions still happen.

A soon-to-be mother who cannot have a baby -WILL- abort the fetus, this is not my opinion, this is fact, I would rather she survive the operation, if she uses a coat hanger she is likely to die too.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by blackrosenova400

Who said no Pro-Life people dont want to talk about countries/situations about where abortions happen illegally? Of course it still happns, at least the citizens know its wrong, and dont have to pay for illegal and disguting activity.

Lets make stealing legal, but just a little bit. Id rather have someone steal just a little bit and get away with it than steal alot.

You're smearing this discussion of liberty with a moral issue. Please stop.

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Originally Posted by iceminion

I would rather one child pass away then both (mother/baby) perish from a back-alley abortion.

One FACT that no pro-life person wants to talk about is in countries/situations where abortion is banished/illegal: Abortions still happen.

It's not pro life or pro choice... It's pro life or pro death. Simple as that. IDK how people can't see that. Death is death, killing is killing, no way around that.

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Originally Posted by iceminion

We copied "cash for clunkers" from Germany(and other European countries) and we are attempting to copy the healthcare model they use for their healthcare. Both examples are of things that -WORK-

Wait, cash for clunkers worked?

I'm just worried because the people with their hands in my healthcare cant keep any budget balanced and cant even fix my roads properly.

The fact that my coverage cost will go up is just an extra kick in the nuts

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Originally Posted by iceminion

I highly doubt 65% of households oppose this, speaking to many people in my community, they are all waiting for the government to stop the stranglehold our healthcare system has over us, which is what this bill really accomplishes.

I know right? People need to learn their math. Just because 38 states are agenst this DOESN'T mean the majority doesn't want it!

Wait....

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Originally Posted by iceminion

We copied "cash for clunkers" from Germany(and other European countries) and we are attempting to copy the healthcare model they use for their healthcare. Both examples are of things that -WORK-

RIIIIGHT! Because C4C worked, SUUUURE. Oh, and the Canadian or *insert country's name here* health care is working out so well? Sorry, but it doesn't make sense to copy something that ='s a FAIL and expect to get anything else as a result...

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Originally Posted by blackrosenova400

What really pisses me off are people who expect to have healthcare pay for there abortions. Wtf! Why should I have to pay for some piece of shit person who wants to murder an innocent baby.

Why should I have to support something I believe to be cruel and horribly wrong!

Exactly!