08-20-2010
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#381
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: beaterX project thread
That piece looks awesome, their fab team is awesome I've heard good things about every single person back there.
I need a ride, you ever venture this way?
I'm not surprised you love that big dark pipe.
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08-20-2010
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#382
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hastings, MN
Drives: 08 Evolution X
Posts: 482
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by scheides
Damn you X guys are whiners!
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Yep, it takes one to know one.
Looks good btw.. moar powa!
Last edited by scheides; 08-20-2010 at 11:13 AM..
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08-20-2010
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#383
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by scheides
Damn you X guys are whiners!
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You'd already broke all of those bolts loose with the stock turbo out of the car--that's pretty much cheating. Breaking the heat shield bolts loose for the first time from under the car isn't so much fun.
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08-20-2010
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#384
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: beaterX project thread
MAP did that for free for me
Test fitting their downpipe ftw, lol.
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08-20-2010
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#385
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
Test fitting their downpipe ftw, lol.
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Why didn't you keep it once it was on there?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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08-20-2010
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#386
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
Yea I'm just as big of a whiner as anyone, just joshin PB Blaster is teh magic souce!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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08-20-2010
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#387
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
Drives: 2003 Evolution VIII
Posts: 7,752
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Why didn't you keep it once it was on there?
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It wasn't pretty enough.
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"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." -Mario Andretti
03 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
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Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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08-20-2010
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#388
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Why didn't you keep it once it was on there?
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A: bought the AMS one already.
B: Main reason I like AMS is cast and many other shops said they saw the biggest gains with theirs, whether or not is true, who knows, but it was trusted shops.
I kind of wish I would've known i was going to test fit it, probably would've gotten a good deal on it And could've had external dump...mmmmm.
Scheides, what day you going to DB? I want a ride next weekend at the cookout if there is time
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08-20-2010
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#389
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
B: Main reason I like AMS is cast and many other shops said they saw the biggest gains with theirs, whether or not is true, who knows, but it was trusted shops.
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Have further details?
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I agree with Kracka.
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08-20-2010
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#390
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
Scheides, what day you going to DB? I want a ride next weekend at the cookout if there is time
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Thursday afternoon. Prolly no rides at the cookout, cops everywhere and I plan on actually checking out all the cars this year; I'm always dinking with cars or test driving MR's that aren't test-driveable or some shit. I wanna just enjoy the show this year. Rides at any other style meet or whenever else, fo sho!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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08-20-2010
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#391
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Have further details?
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Not for this thread, lol, i clog enough threads, take it to mine if you want and I will try to look for some stuff.
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Originally Posted by scheides
Thursday afternoon. Prolly no rides at the cookout, cops everywhere and I plan on actually checking out all the cars this year; I'm always dinking with cars or test driving MR's that aren't test-driveable or some shit. I wanna just enjoy the show this year. Rides at any other style meet or whenever else, fo sho!
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Sweet, yea I will hit ya up at a wednesday meet or something
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08-26-2010
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#392
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flips McGee
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Dyno numbers on the BBX!
Got the new setup tuned today! As usual, Shane couldn't push timing much as beaterX is kinda a bitch and/or we just don't have very awesome pump gas around here. Shane said that the car *loved* timing in that it would make decent gains for every degree added but it wasn't always liking it. We ended up running only about 13°*up top, really a lot less than I expected, but the car feels fantastic now.
It rolled in at 321whp @27psi tapering to 25-25.5 and left with 346 @ 28 tapering to 26 and a crap-load more midrange than it came in with. More on that in a sec.
Dyno Dynamics numbers, 1.0CF:
Shootout/Dynojet numbers:
28psi peak, tapering to 26. Here's where a BCS might help a bit up top, but my FMIC is overtaxed as it is, so meh. Both Bryan@GST Motorsports and Chad@CBRD said that every psi over 25 yields great great gains on this turbo and that 28 is a great target for pump gas.
Nice and rich to help prevent knock
Here's the best! When I first bolted this thing on, it was at or below the torque of my stock turbo. NOW with the tuning love from DB Performance, I went from 282wtq on the stock turbo to 311wtq with the BBX! Granted, I also have the MAP o2 elim downpipe on the car now as well but it really doesn't matter, the new setup lost some spool but I'm up torque and power bigtime!
+68whp/+29wtq
Lost about 800rpm of spool, but this turbo is rated at 58lbs/min. Seeing 25psi by 3900rpm is pretty damn good imho.
I'm extremely happy with the new setup! So smooth, decent power, and should be very reliable. Time to go to the track and see if I can get this bish into the 12's! I've got 2000 miles on the ACT 6-puck and 1000 miles on the BBX already; I'm ready to just keep driving this thing and keep having fun!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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08-26-2010
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#393
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: beaterX project thread
Awesome, great numbers for pump gas! I think that is right about where I saw an FPred on an X hit for pump gas on Shanes dyno.
Bet it feels great, congrats Scheides!
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08-26-2010
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#394
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
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Re: beaterX project thread
Looks awesome man! How close is tephra to figuring our X map-switching? Maybe try out an alternate map for E85?
If these are anything like the IX's, I bet some cams would really wake up that turbo, both spool-wise and power-wise.
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I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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08-26-2010
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#395
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by goodhart
How close is tephra to figuring our X map-switching?
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Done! The first rev of the Tephra ROM is out. KnockCEL is awesome and map switching can be done using the gas pedal or cruise control. NLTS will be a big breakthrough, whenever it happens.
Hell, I can't wait to have Shane do PSI-based boost control instead of load. Tephra is teh man.
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If these are anything like the IX's, I bet some cams would really wake up that turbo, both spool-wise and power-wise.
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That's one of those areas where there hasn't been enough testing just yet. You can't just tell people to buy FP4Rs and call it a day.
Last edited by mlomker; 08-26-2010 at 10:33 PM..
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08-26-2010
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#396
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by mlomker
Done! The first rev of the Tephra ROM is out. ...
That's one of those areas where there hasn't been enough testing just yet. You can't just tell people to buy FP4Rs and call it a day.
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Yuppers, goodhart I'm actually a beta tester for Tephra, but its been out for months now Def need NLTS, I miss it
Lomker I gotta check out your car sometime (or murlo's whenever it runs again) and check out the cam situation. Not in the near future for my car but the gains some people are posting up on the national boards are awfully enticing
I'm planning on doing an exhaust manifold next, but after that its a crossroads. High-octane mods, or efficiency mods (and more pump gas). Either way I'm hitting 4.9v on the stock maf housing @7500rpm and the dw800's I got from you are going to be quickly maxed unless I go alky, so yea. I kinda have the evoX equivelant (in my mind) to the old 1G DSM w/ 2G MAF, 550s, and 16g combo.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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08-26-2010
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#397
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hutch
Drives: Evo VIII and 96' Buick Park Ave
Posts: 2,595
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Re: beaterX project thread
What a solid set up. It's such a smooth powerful ride it's mind blowing. Thanks again for the ride and letting me stick around and hang out!
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08-26-2010
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#398
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
It was fun man! Thanks for comign along on the test drive, always nice to have a spotter!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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08-26-2010
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#399
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'2of9'
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Inver Grove Heights
Drives: Racer Van V6
Posts: 2,125
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Re: beaterX project thread
amazing numbers. looks like one heck of a ride! I can definitely see 12s!
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08-26-2010
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#400
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immune from paybans
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: West Des Moines
Drives: poorly
Posts: 4,358
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Re: beaterX project thread
Congrats, looks like a fun ride.
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