Terrorist... - Page 2

Onefast99gsx · 07-07-2005

Oh no- i don't think that it's just us at all. Iraqi has these attacks daily. Today it was London. Japan or China had a subway attack in the recent years back. More needs to be and should be done. Death by natural or manmade disaster just is part of the way it has to be i guess. If we didn't have it, we'd be way to overpopulated.

A huge percentage of these groups are in fact good and in many cases even better than some of our white trashy people. The fact that these extremeists use religion and say that "Alah" has called upon them to do these acts, don't help matters. When these acts happens it's a proven fact that we stereotype others. When i was at home for lunch, Tony Blair spoke a little bit of the Muslims and things to the nature of what i said.

tpunx99GSX · 07-07-2005

Well if allahs the one making them do this, then damn why dont we kill everyone that praise allah.

Jacek · 07-07-2005

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Well if allahs the one making them do this, then damn why dont we kill everyone that praise allah.

Thats wrong, look at it this way also, we have extremists over here also and they kill themselves and others. Anyone remember any?

Speedfreak · 07-07-2005

You do realize that Allah, is just God in Arabic right? The same God that the Christians believe in and the same God that the Jews believe in...

Enes · 07-07-2005

Tom, please come over, i have something tasty for you, its a bit heavy, and its poisonous if you swalow.... ok ok, its just some lead!

Onefast99gsx · 07-07-2005

I could be wrong but I think Allah is the equivalence of us worshipping God/Jesus Christ. The key word was 'think' there. Anytime i've seen or heard of Osama speaking in those videos, he always referenced Allah and the Holy war.

It's no new news, many people and countries hate America and Americans for the freedom that we have and represent. And after there were no WMD found in Iraq our credibility was shot down the shitter and didn't help matters either. Many would agree and feel that Mr. Bush has other agendas for Iraq.

1QUICK4 · 07-07-2005

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And after there were no WMD found in Iraq our credibility was shot down the shitter and didn't help matters either.

Actually they found small amounts of Sarin from Germany & Russia in Iraq, but you won't hear anything about that from the American media. Kinda makes you wonder how much and what was smuggled out before the invasion.

Onefast99gsx · 07-07-2005

PS- This topic should be deleted all together because all it does if stir everyone up and cause one big pissing match and hate.

Enes · 07-07-2005

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It's no new news, many people and countries hate America and Americans for the freedom that we have and represent.

wrong,

people don't hate US for that, they hate it for the reasons they only go where they have interest to do so and put their fingers and nose in everything, mess up, and don't confess. Stir trouble and when something big happens, who was it, no one. who did it, someone, who is someone.. CIA, no they don't work for us.

Onefast99gsx · 07-07-2005

I'll surely agree there. We mess with way too many peoples/countries business. IMO- it should be every country worry about their own business period. We've lost almost 2,000 soldiers since the war started over an agenda we don't know what it is and where it's even going. Korea is going to be an interesting one if it happens. Iran is another one. Will we goto war to prevent war. Sounds like a line from the movie 'Paycheck'

sleepy2lazy · 07-07-2005

""""""I'll surely agree there. We mess with way too many peoples/countries business. IMO- it should be every country worry about their own business period. We've lost almost 2,000 soldiers since the war started over an agenda we don't know what it is and where it's even going. Korea is going to be an interesting one if it happens. Iran is another one. Will we goto war to prevent war. Sounds like a line from the movie 'Paycheck'""""

America over the years have dug a whole in every country that America has found to find some form of profit or entertainment. If not that, then it has been to *protect the innocent* or to *protect the country from communism*.
We all should know this starting from the lineup--> Germany, Japan, China, Korea, Vietnam.
America got involved with these countries, and basically left them screwed in the end.

America doesn't go to war just for the sake of preventing war. IMO America goes to war to also obtain something else then the sense of justice.

Losing almost 2000 US soldiers is incomparable to the amount lost in Iraq.
Then again, ending this war in the most peaceful way would be best without pullling out and leaving the country in turmoil.

CDeutsch · 07-07-2005

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We all should know this starting from the lineup--> Germany, Japan, China, Korea, Vietnam.
America got involved with these countries, and basically left them screwed in the end.

I'm not the biggest America supporter but I do believe Germany and Japan are much better off now than the road they were headed down. Off hand I can't think of any other instance in history where a group of people were defeated and instead of taking everything they had, the country was rebuilt for them instead.

I'd love it if we stopped going into other countries, but it's just like the cops. Usually you hate it when they're around, but as soon as somebody breaks into your house you're like "where the hell are the cops?" Kind of like the whole G8 Africa thing. We hate America! (But we love your money)

sleepy2lazy · 07-08-2005

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Originally Posted by CDeutsch

I'm not the biggest America supporter but I do believe Germany and Japan are much better off now than the road they were headed down. Off hand I can't think of any other instance in history where a group of people were defeated and instead of taking everything they had, the country was rebuilt for them instead.

I'd love it if we stopped going into other countries, but it's just like the cops. Usually you hate it when they're around, but as soon as somebody breaks into your house you're like "where the hell are the cops?" Kind of like the whole G8 Africa thing. We hate America! (But we love your money)

I can understand you to some points CDeutsch, but in truth, two of those countries could have developed on its own. Cannot turn back time to change it and nor can we predict it but, America left Japan / China in turmoil.
Europe / Russia / America invaded Japan far back in the days. Russia / Europe disregarded its investments in Japan due to the war of 1812. Napoleon's quest for power. America was the only one left in that, and it basically ruined the power structure and economy of Japan that has been stable for centuries before foreigners came in there.

In China, America supported the democratic group which destroyed China. Rise of Communist Mao took place. If only America woulda supported Mao. (IMO, Communist Mao in his early stages during China's civil war actually had the best form of government i have read about. The reason that i think he took over with an iron fist was due to Russia / America's interference, thus Mao shut off all connections with countries. W/O those two nations interfering, the country may have prospered. Germany after WWI was left in ruins. Korea with Nuclear Weapons? Now America is a bit afraid? Maybe Korea just wanted some Nukes for its own defense, kinda like, "You got guns? We got guns ! Back off our country and let us deal with it"

Anyways, due to past historic events. I am for the war. Too late to stop it and change it now, it has to be resolved. IMO, If the US pulls out now, then history repeats itself, basically like Vietnam. This is why we have history class, not just to know past events, but to watch the moves we make in the future.

LightningGSX · 07-31-2005

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Originally Posted by sleepy2lazy

I can understand you to some points CDeutsch, but in truth, two of those countries could have developed on its own. Cannot turn back time to change it and nor can we predict it but, America left Japan / China in turmoil.
Europe / Russia / America invaded Japan far back in the days. Russia / Europe disregarded its investments in Japan due to the war of 1812. Napoleon's quest for power. America was the only one left in that, and it basically ruined the power structure and economy of Japan that has been stable for centuries before foreigners came in there.

In China, America supported the democratic group which destroyed China. Rise of Communist Mao took place. If only America woulda supported Mao. (IMO, Communist Mao in his early stages during China's civil war actually had the best form of government i have read about. The reason that i think he took over with an iron fist was due to Russia / America's interference, thus Mao shut off all connections with countries. W/O those two nations interfering, the country may have prospered. Germany after WWI was left in ruins. Korea with Nuclear Weapons? Now America is a bit afraid? Maybe Korea just wanted some Nukes for its own defense, kinda like, "You got guns? We got guns ! Back off our country and let us deal with it"

My memory has been shitty these last few weeks but, as I recall...
1.America in no way left Japan in turmoil.Germany was far from "left in ruins".The allied "rehabilitation of enemy sates" were for the most part very effective, and their actions are directly responsible for the the free prosperous places they are today.Maybe I forgot something, but I can't remember how exacly we left China in turmoil.
2.We did in fact ally the US and communist China during the Nixon administration.We sacrificed Taiwan as an independant state, but allied with China none the less, mostly on the threat(against both US and China) from the soviet union
3.No nation in the modern world needs nuclear weapons for defense purposes.North Korea wants/has nukes only because the dictator is a 4 foot pussy with an obvious "napoleon complex" and IMHO has some delusion of being some kind of a modern world conqueror.Even without nukes, NK is a very formidable enemy to many nations which would even consider invading it.Not that any nations had intention on doing so before NK decided to pursue nukes.
Misc thoughts...
The proliferation of terrorism is directly related to the media coverage of it.In the 50-60+ years of terrorist tactics, its sole purpose was/is to bring the worlds attention to the particular ideals of the group who commit the acts.The one and only surefire way to stop terrorist attacks is to stop the media coverage of it.Since this is not likely to happen, expect the violence to esculate, and definately don't expect an end.

Enes · 07-07-2005

btw,
whats going now in Iraq and whats going on with Alquaida is all america trying to finish what it started long time ago....aka 60's and 70's when it actually funded Alquaida and Sadam, and put them in power, supplied them with weapons, then left them defensless after they served their purpose!!!

Who organized Alquaida? USA...

1QUICK4 · 07-07-2005

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Who organized Alquaida? USA...

Wrong, we supplied and trained the Mujahadeen(sp?) to fight the soviets.
The Mujahadeen warriors then defeated the soviet invaders who pulled out of afghanistan.

It was many years after that happened when Osama (who was trained by american special forces) organized Alqueda and put the Taliban in power.

They didn't attack us because we left them high and dry. They attacked us for stationing our military forces in thier holyland.

Regardless it is another sad day in history and my heart goes out to all those limey bastards who were affected by this attack.

Jakey · 07-07-2005

All I'm going to say:

1) My comment above uses the word "these," not "the," in which I was specifically directing the comment towards the ******** whom have and continue to committ attacks like this.

2)If Kerry was our President, God only help us in terms of attacks like what happened in London today.

3)Unfortunately our immigration policies are a joke. People who want to come to America for legitimate reasons and would be of benefit to our country are denied entry far more than should ever happen on God's earth. Yet, the influx of illegals in America seems to go no where but up.

3)To contradict what most of us think, people around the world do support the war in Iraq. Unfortunately it is always the damn protestors who get all of the coverage and attention. I got back last Friday from spending 17 days out west on the wheat harvest for work. The crew I was working with had mostly South African(white) workers in which I got to know quite well. I got to know a couple of them especially well and both are strong supporters of the war in Iraq. They also said that a large number of South Africans support the war.

4)I support the war and believe it is something which needed to happen, whether there are WMDs or not, for the sake of National and World security. We have a President with balls whom is not afraid to stick up for the country whom he is in charge of protecting and preserving the freedom of all Americans.

tpunx99GSX · 07-07-2005

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Originally Posted by Jakey

All I'm going to say:

2)If Kerry was our President, God only help us in terms of attacks like what happened in London today.

Why was it that you had to bring kerry into this... This only proves that you know absolutly nothing and that your a retarded ass bush supporter, trying to justify the presidency of a man to which i have more brain cells in my pinky then he has in his whole being.

Speedfreak · 07-07-2005

Considering we have at least a couple of Muslims on this board, including myself. The use of "**********" is a little concerning. There are many slang terms for many different types of people, but for some reason it is ok for you to sling that one around without conscience. And if your excuse is, well I am just talking about the terrorist ones. Well that could also be said about every other color/ethnic derogatory term as well.

**JET** · 07-07-2005

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Why was it that you had to bring kerry into this... This only proves that you know absolutly nothing and that your a retarded ass bush supporter, trying to justify the presidency of a man to which i have more brain cells in my pinky then he has in his whole being.

Tom, I thing YOU have more brain cells in your pinky than in your head!! We have went all through this before. You spout off stuff and provide no sources or anything. Yeah, we are supposed to believe it "cuz Tom said".