Finally getting stuff done on our cars - Page 15

**JET** · 08-06-2006

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Originally Posted by ecoli

You have to remember that would be like 460+ per turbo on an AWD or FWD Dynojet and Josh is running internally gated Mitsu versions, which aren't going to perform as well as a normal T3/T4 50-trim turbo.

Ahhh, sorry. I didn't remember them being internally gated. That will hurt the performance a fair amount. I just didn't get his reasoning behind why the turbo's were maxed out.

tim · 08-06-2006

Ahhhem, I am guessing things didnt go as expected?

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 08-06-2006

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Originally Posted by niterydr

2)I wanna go single next year, I am tired of the lag and heat, time to look at gt42's.

Josh, does the 6-speed tranny have shorter gears? You have the 5-speed right? The extra long gears would hurt spoolup and make it much harder to stay in boost between shifts.

TheBlizzard · 08-05-2006

So what did you run today?

FattyBoomBatty · 08-05-2006

Bigger, shorter pipes, smoother transitions, a 110mm TB and 3" downpipes = 50 more hp.

**Goat Blower** · 08-05-2006

Damn, that's some serious powah, especially considering the reading is much lower than the dynojet numbers I'm used to. If you can get that thing to hook and shift, it should be an animal, even at 4800 lbs.

Shotgun! · 08-06-2006

There are a lot of shortcomings in the setup. I think he has done pretty well for what's gone in and how fast it came together. A 6 speed would help things and so would real intercoolers. But given it's been pushed more than driven, lets drive it and have fun for a bit. Summer is almost over anyway.

A//// Guy · 08-06-2006

The real question is what did he end up running at rock falls on Saturday!

**JET** · 08-07-2006

Hopefully nothing bad happened. It really sucks to put all that time and effort into it and have something happen.

**Goat Blower** · 08-07-2006

The six-speed trannies also come with the mucho expensive xfer case, the 5-speed setup is much cheaper to fix and apparently is more robust. Just ask Matt Jannusch.

niterydr · 08-07-2006

Yeah the internal gates are really killing it. I might try to unplug the wastegates to try more boost as I think they are getting popped open.
The sidemount intercoolers are heatsoaking at these higher boost levels, they work great for pump gas, probably up to about 550awhp I'd imagine.
Car runs great, just I have a bad 2nd gear syncro. Best pass was a 11.45@135.xxmph off the trailer, no nitrous. I babied the 1-2 and spun a 1.87 60' on that one. I turned on the nitrous the next pass and all it did was make me consistant. The car was down on power the rest of the day (I couldn't get the heat out of the huge cores, once it heatsoaks its over). Off the bottle it gained around 35mph from the 1/8 to 1/4, on the bottle 41mph, consistantly. So I know its gaining power, I just need it to hook up at the line and get the 1-2 shift clean (new syncro). I didn't get a clean shift the rest of the day, ran a bunch of 12.0-12.2 at 125-131mph. However it was a good day because I learned how to get consistant 1.73-1.78 60's and keep it straight in 1st gear, I'll get some tires on there and a new syncro and be golden!

Its all working out bugs, and thats what I do. I just hate making baby steps with parts that I know are holding me back. I am going to give it one more trip to the track on the current setup (hopefully with a t-case housing and sticky tires, and a syncro) before I start to sell/switch out components.

A//// Guy · 08-07-2006

Nice runs!! Its great that its running well and putting down consistant times! Just wait till the air temps are in the 50-60 degree range, that should help.

turbotalon1g · 08-07-2006

LMAO, i smell new setup!! Peter hit it on the head, wait till sept. when the temps are much lower. Just to think at night on the street the ambient temps in sept. will be 40-50F

niterydr · 08-07-2006

AJ · 08-07-2006

That's it?

**Goat Blower** · 08-07-2006

Not bad for 202 dyno runs.

EvilEvo · 08-07-2006

Sorry to hear the car still doesnt run right. It really sucks when you spend all that time and money on a car and it still cant even make any decent passes

Could you scan in one of the whole timeslips so I can compare some of mine to it and see where your car is hurting?

niterydr · 08-07-2006

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Originally Posted by EvilEvo

Sorry to hear the car still doesnt run right. It really sucks when you spend all that time and money on a car and it still cant even make any decent passes

Could you scan in one of the whole timeslips so I can compare some of mine to it and see where your car is hurting?

Best timeslip coppied.

.463 r/t(doesn't matter).
1.874 60'
5.140 330'
7.653 1/8 mile
97.66 1/8 mph
9.768 1000' mark
11.450 1/4 mile e/t
135.76 1/4 mph

That pass was the best of the day, also the first pass out. After a few more launches I figured out how to hook and cut my 1.737, 1.738, 1.757 60's. Then I had trouble getting 2nd gear after this pass. This pass I grabbed 2nd SLOW, and wasn't using the spray it was just a "non heatsoaked" c-16 pass.
I average +35-36mph on c-16 on a somewhat from the 1/8 to the 1/4, nitrous is 41mph when the car his hot, so I know its adding power

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I just need to get the first 330' down and I'll be good to go.

TheBlizzard · 08-07-2006

Heatsoak should be less of an issue if at all when on the bottle. Did you log AITs on and off the bottle? I guess it would depend on the setup but the drop in temperature should be significant. Either way you can tell the power is there, just need to put a run together. Like I said before, its all how you look at it. I think you are saving your cars ass since its spinning like fuck out of the hole. Without that your drivetrain might be in serious jeopordy at that power level. And since you drive your car on the street its not a bad thing.

But it would be awesome to see that thing get into the mids 10s a few times.

niterydr · 08-07-2006

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Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

Heatsoak should be less of an issue if at all when on the bottle. Did you log AITs on and off the bottle? I guess it would depend on the setup but the drop in temperature should be significant. Either way you can tell the power is there, just need to put a run together. Like I said before, its all how you look at it. I think you are saving your cars ass since its spinning like fuck out of the hole. Without that your drivetrain might be in serious jeopordy at that power level. And since you drive your car on the street its not a bad thing.

But it would be awesome to see that thing get into the mids 10s a few times.

Yeah, they stay between 130-140 on the spray and get near/over 200 on just the intercoolers.