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Old 06-15-2007   #1
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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If you are launching from a dig, then you shouldn't have to worry about turbo spool and if you are from a roll there shouldn't be much either, unless you are in the wrong gear. With the weight difference you should have beat him pretty easily.

3S's are nice cars and can be made pretty quick, but DSM's are cheap powa. Both have their good and bad points.
That's the thing thought, I haven't gotten my laptop hooked up to dsmlink yet because of mac/dsmlink issues. So my launch is as good as a fwd car almost because I don't hit boost untill about 4-5'gs. And the 3s has such longer gears its crazy. I'm out of first gear barley before I hit full boost.
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

50 trim DSM isn't for you then my good man, you probably wanted to stay with a 16G, preferably EVO3 style.
Thats teh other part of the story is weight, DSMs have a little less.
I ran a 12.9 on my B16G, DSMlink car, my bro went 12.7 with it. So we figured the thing has a 12.6 in it.
Granted not as cushy as a 3/S. But done cheaply on a junk motor with all used parts apart from the link.
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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50 trim DSM isn't for you then my good man, you probably wanted to stay with a 16G, preferably EVO3 style.
Thats teh other part of the story is weight, DSMs have a little less.
I ran a 12.9 on my B16G, DSMlink car, my bro went 12.7 with it. So we figured the thing has a 12.6 in it.
Granted not as cushy as a 3/S. But done cheaply on a junk motor with all used parts apart from the link.
I had the 16g for a while but never really got to use it since I upgraded to the 50trim before ever getting injectors and fuel. I love the bigger turbo but im just hating the turbo lag. Hopefully I'll be able to up the boost a little more soon and then I'll be happy. But aw man I could spin all 4 wheels with the 16g and I can barley chirp them with this turbo. I guess that's a good thing in a way, but aw man I'm all for having enough power to throw the car around haha. Maybe when I crankwalk lol I'll do a 2.4 if I've got the money.
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Old 06-15-2007   #4
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

well you could just go 2.4 and then have 16G spool....... I almost want a bigger turbo now. What is the a/r? I had a .48 on on the 2.0 it wasnt bad
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

I'm just givin ya shit man. I agree with DSM's being reliable (as long as they're kept up well). Unfortunatley, that doesn't happen nearly enough as is should
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Old 06-15-2007   #6
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

With a 50 trim (and .63 or scm housing) you should hit full boost in the mid 3k's, you have something wrong if it is over 4k to full boost. If you can't launch better than a fwd, then you need to learn how to slip a clutch!
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

Shit man ive practiced launching. I can't pop the clutch because it will bog down ( I know I shouldn't pop it anyway). The only way I get a decent start is if i slowly let off the clutch and easy into firsttt. but yea i dont hit boost entil like 4 and not full boost untill 5k isher. sucks dick i knoww
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Old 06-16-2007   #8
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

2-step FTW!

Turbo lag is only a teaser for the guy next to you. If a 50-trim is too laggy for you my friend, then don't ever upgrade.

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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

yea 50 trims are laggy, But so are every other turbo just as big or bigger. you don't see the fast dsm's runnin low and uner 12s with 16g's now do ya?! One day I'll figure out my laptop and get a good tune and learn to play with some of the features of dsmlink.
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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yea 50 trims are laggy, But so are every other turbo just as big or bigger. you don't see the fast dsm's runnin low and uner 12s with 16g's now do ya?! One day I'll figure out my laptop and get a good tune and learn to play with some of the features of dsmlink.
Lag can be contributed to a few things.

Boost leaks/pressure drop
Exhaust leaks

are the major 2. Also a wounded turbine wheel can attribute to a laggy setup. Intake restrictions, and a weak motor.
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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Lag can be contributed to a few things.

Boost leaks/pressure drop
Exhaust leaks

are the major 2. Also a wounded turbine wheel can attribute to a laggy setup. Intake restrictions, and a weak motor.
Boost leak test tomorrow. I don't hear any exhaust leaks at all and I've got all brand new gaskets. The turbo has about one summer on it and has been pretty well taken care of (warming it up and cooling it down). The turbo was mint when I put it in a few months ago and I've been pretty nice to it for the most part. And you yourself congratulated me on having such a "healthy motor." I'm hoping there are a few boost leaks haha
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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One day I'll figure out my laptop and get a good tune and learn to play with some of the features of dsmlink.
Why not just get it dyno-tuned? Get it done right to reduce the chance of harming your engine.
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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Why not just get it dyno-tuned? Get it done right to reduce the chance of harming your engine.
LSE tuned my car so I guess the tune is good. But I meant once I get my laptop hooked up I can look into features like the studder box and shift points. Idk just a thought
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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yea 50 trims are laggy, But so are every other turbo just as big or bigger. you don't see the fast dsm's runnin low and uner 12s with 16g's now do ya?! One day I'll figure out my laptop and get a good tune and learn to play with some of the features of dsmlink.

What about that guy with a FWD 1G and a 14B in the 10s?
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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What about that guy with a FWD 1G and a 14B in the 10s?
Find me two more people that have ran 10's with 14b's and I'll say tooshay. haha what I mean, is in general, people with bigger than 16gs do 12s'ish or better even though some people do that with smaller turbos. I'm talkin majority
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

Actually, if you have the Curt Brown mod, you can run a 10.3/4 on a 16g, with mild cams and e85.

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Yeah if I remember correctly the compression numbers were good.
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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Yeah if I remember correctly the compression numbers were good.
I didn't even know you guys did a compression test. I doubt you have the numbers recorded anywhere, but if you do lmk cus thad be nice to know
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I contribute your beating to driver error. Good luck next time.
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I contribute your beating to driver error. Good luck next time.
Never said I raced him. Never launched against him. So how could I have gotten beat if we never raced? I said he lurched forward and took off a few times. Your fantasizing again Aaron
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