Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog - Page 36

**mlomker** · 07-15-2010

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Originally Posted by simulatedwood

M1 10w-40 is $21.00 @ walmart for a 5 quart jug !

That's the place to get it, then.

Since I already had a $130 case of Amsoil 0w30, I think I'll just mix it 50/50 with 20w50 until it is used up. It averages out to 10w40, right? Somehow I doubt the math is that simple but I guess that's better than using 30.

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Originally Posted by scheides

I like this oil discussion, maybe we should start a thread about it

I've read threads about it on other forums but you never know who you're talking to. Internetz ftl.

**Kracka** · 07-15-2010

You can get Mobil 1 5W-40 or 10W-40 at Walmart for half the price of Amsoil.

IMO, Amsoil is nothing but over-hyped propoganda since it's marketed with a pyramid scheme. It's a good oil, but not THAT good. Great marketing decision on their part though.

**Murlo26** · 07-15-2010

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Originally Posted by Kracka

You can get Mobil 1 5W-40 or 10W-40 at Walmart for half the price of Amsoil.

If Shane says it works as good I will by all means do it...I am not putting my brand new motor at risk though, lol. I have seen comparisons of M1 vs Amsoil and usually Amsoil is way ahead but I am no oil expert.

**Kracka** · 07-15-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

I have seen comparisons of M1 vs Amsoil and usually Amsoil is way ahead but I am no oil expert.

Look at who pays for those "independent" lab tests though.

**Murlo26** · 07-15-2010

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Look at who pays for those "independent" lab tests though.

Like I said...I shall do whatever Shane/Danny tell me to do...if they say just use synthetic and this weight...then i will probably just stick with M1...however I forgot to say, I chose not to support Walmart whenever possible, i hate that corporation...

**Kracka** · 07-15-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

I chose not to support Walmart whenever possible, i hate that corporation...

LOL so does Scheides. I personally love it. It saves me a ton of money and they've done what most other American companies can only dream of. Plus they bring jobs to depressed areas and employ the otherwise unemployable.

**scheides** · 07-15-2010

Honestly it would be cool to pull it apart yourself, I'd even love to help, but IMHO an experienced engine builder would be who you want to do it. They might notice something some of us novices might not

I'll be at DB next friday too, maybe we wrangle danny and talk him into helping us take a peak.

**Murlo26** · 07-15-2010

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Originally Posted by scheides

Honestly it would be cool to pull it apart yourself, I'd even love to help, but IMHO an experienced engine builder would be who you want to do it. They might notice something some of us novices might not

I'll be at DB next friday too, maybe we wrangle danny and talk him into helping us take a peak.

Well I could probably take off of work a few hours early next friday, get there around 230 or 3 to take a look. My new motor should be progressing by then hopefully as well.

I'll toss Danny an email about it here later.

**scheides** · 07-15-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Well I could probably take off of work a few hours early next friday, get there around 230 or 3 to take a look. My new motor should be progressing by then hopefully as well.

I'll toss Danny an email about it here later.

Ok, I'll be there around 2 with hughes for his tune. Anna will be along shortly with the pups to scoop me up and we're headed up north for the weekend, so who knows how long I'll stick around for.

FWIW I've run M1 10w30 in all of my DSMs and Evos, no issues yet. Of course, I've never made more than around 400whp, so I assume the 'big power' cars shane is talking about are 500+. I like this oil discussion, maybe we should start a thread about it

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 07-15-2010

I really don't care that much about oil brand. I don't like M1 though. It's overhyped more than Amsoil. Do I ever see problems with Amsoil? No. Do I ever see problems with M1? Yes all the time. Do I see much problems with any brand besides M1? Not really. I usually run Castrol, Napa or Rotella.

Speedfreak · 07-15-2010

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Originally Posted by ecoli

I really don't care that much about oil brand. I don't like M1 though. It's overhyped more than Amsoil. Do I ever see problems with Amsoil? No. Do I ever see problems with M1? Yes all the time. Do I see much problems with any brand besides M1? Not really. I usually run Castrol, Napa or Rotella.

Ditto.

**Kracka** · 07-15-2010

oil thread: http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showthr...140#post349140

**Murlo26** · 07-15-2010

AMS Spec JE pistons will be at DB tomorrow, just got word from AMS

More money for them over the Manley's but able to handle more power and I don't have to wait for the rest of the summer for them.

**mlomker** · 07-15-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

AMS Spec JE pistons will be at DB tomorrow, just got word from AMS

I assume these are different than the ones on their website, since you said that these were coated. Were they more than Buschur's version?

http://tinyurl.com/27pg2nn

**Kracka** · 07-15-2010

What's different about "AMS spec" compared to off the shelf JE's?

**Murlo26** · 07-15-2010

They were more money yea...but its AMS, to be expected.

AMS said they have tested them up to 800whp on the X and they have used them on 1000whp+ builds on the 8/9. The AMS spec ones simply handle more power.

Not sure the exact differences, but here is some bullet points from the AMS website about the ones i got:

* Specially designed quench area that improves power and reduces the chance of detonation
* Annular pin hole grooves with double forced oil holes to prevent pinhole galling
* Taper lands to prevent scuffing
* Extra thick lands for superior ring groove support under extreme pressure
* 4340 taper bore, hard-chromed extra heavy duty pins for high strength and low weight

Taken from the AMS spec ones from the IX, should be the same features though.

311evo · 07-15-2010

Most aftermarket pistons will hold plenty of power, but detonation will kill anything.

**Murlo26** · 07-15-2010

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Originally Posted by 311evo

Most aftermarket pistons will hold plenty of power, but detonation will kill anything.

True...but the AMS ones were in stock ready to go...I just want a car to drive while there is summer left!

**mlomker** · 07-15-2010

Dave is so balla'

**Murlo26** · 07-15-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

Dave is so balla'

Hell ya! Got an oil cap and a pc'ed valve cover and all now...also an SSP coil cover too