Bush: Making the Rich richer

[CVD]

Originally Posted by clean2g

I'm just fucking pissed because I'm already so damn poor and I can't even afford my own place, or to pay for college, but yet I had to cut a check for a 1/4 of all the money I have?? Is it just me or is something not right here? Go after someone that actually HAS some money. That bush stuff is old news.. that was already known when he was running for election the first time.. I mean fuck, I used to live in TX and we knew he was doing that as governor!

I'm going to have to go out on a limb here and say that the taxes you are paying arent your main problem. It would be nice if people faced up to their financial issues instead of looking for a scapegoat or a crutch. Mike (Raptor) once said something that has always stuck with me, and that is that people are always waiting for someone else to solve their problems. Even making minimum wage you can afford to have a place to live, transportation, and put yourself through school. A couple years ago I had a teacher who had immigrated from China. He supported his wife and kid on something like $75 per week while he got an education to become a teacher.

I just cant stand it when people bitch about how bad they have it when others who obviously started off much worse are able to turn things around in a relatively short period of time. I just dont have sympathy for those who wont help themselves.

[howslowcanyougo]

Originally Posted by CVD

I'm going to have to go out on a limb here and say that the taxes you are paying arent your main problem. It would be nice if people faced up to their financial issues instead of looking for a scapegoat or a crutch. Mike (Raptor) once said something that has always stuck with me, and that is that people are always waiting for someone else to solve their problems. Even making minimum wage you can afford to have a place to live, transportation, and put yourself through school. A couple years ago I had a teacher who had immigrated from China. He supported his wife and kid on something like $75 per week while he got an education to become a teacher.

I just cant stand it when people bitch about how bad they have it when others who obviously started off much worse are able to turn things around in a relatively short period of time. I just dont have sympathy for those who wont help themselves.

Right on!

Right Back to who's fault is your lifes present condition?

By and large YOUR OWN!

Make better and wiser choices, and you STILL will get ahead in America, but the incentive is slowly being taken away by liberal socialistic policies, that "protect the poor"?

At what just cost?

To where the Honest and Hard working people give up more and more for the parisites?

Who deserves to live a better life?

The workers, thinkers, inventors?

Or the takers, winers and lamers?

What are we promoting by giving all this money away to people who produce nothing?

Non-Production!


I'm all for helping people who want help and want OUT of poverty, but sadly most people only say they do, give them a real job with real work and they won't last a week. They would rather live off from YOUR labor!

Like CVD said, "I just dont have sympathy for those who wont help themselves."

There's no excuse for being poor here in America, your either lazy, wasted, stupid and or just want to keep sitting in the wagon while every one else pulls it for you.

Why not? Americas so generous, that she'll give you a chance after chance on the taxpayers dime, as even our "poor" have it better than 80% of the world, so why even work?

When are people finally going to understand that just giving "the poor" the taxpayers money is NOT helping people move out of their situation!

It only enables them to STAY in it!

Ultimately it seems that only Pain truely motivates people, it was the main driving force in my "conversion" from living all wasted out to getting clean, happier and much more productive, if we take all the pain and the consquences out of any bad behavor away, and what is the motivation to change???

IMHO....

[TurboDomestics]

Originally Posted by howslowcanyougo

Right on!

Right Back to who's fault is your lifes present condition?

By and large YOUR OWN!

Make better and wiser choices, and you STILL will get ahead in America, but the incentive is slowly being taken away by liberal socialistic policies, that "protect the poor"?

At what just cost?

To where the Honest and Hard working people give up more and more for the parisites?

Who deserves to live a better life?

The workers, thinkers, inventors?

Or the takers, winers and lamers?

What are we promoting by giving all this money away to people who produce nothing?

Non-Production!


I'm all for helping people who want help and want OUT of poverty, but sadly most people only say they do, give them a real job with real work and they won't last a week. They would rather live off from YOUR labor!

Like CVD said, "I just dont have sympathy for those who wont help themselves."

There's no excuse for being poor here in America, your either lazy, wasted, stupid and or just want to keep sitting in the wagon while every one else pulls it for you.

Why not? Americas so generous, that she'll give you a chance after chance on the taxpayers dime, as even our "poor" have it better than 80% of the world, so why even work?

When are people finally going to understand that just giving "the poor" the taxpayers money is NOT helping people move out of their situation!

It only enables them to STAY in it!

Ultimately it seems that only Pain truely motivates people, it was the main driving force in my "conversion" from living all wasted out to getting clean, happier and much more productive, if we take all the pain and the consquences out of any bad behavor away, and what is the motivation to change???

IMHO....

I suppose this does make a good deal of sence.


I didnt really think too much about what I was typing on my previous statement in this thread. In this country every one has great opportunities, I suppose my own personal image of "the poor" comes from when I used to live in Mexico. Where there are plenty of very hard working people, that just cant get a break no matter what, but they just keep on trying.

[LaunchHard]

There really is no reason to be complaining. You can never do anything about this sort of thing. You try and elect the person you think will do the best job, but you have to know in the back of your mind that they are gonna do some fucked up shit. It's inevitable. So, really, this sort of thing should just be igneored, cause you can't do a thing to stop it. Its sad but it is true. If you just ignore it, you'll live a stress reduced life. The peolpe that we elect to help us, could not give a shit less about us and what is good for the people. They want to make themselves richer, and that's the only thing they have on their mind. The all mighty dollar, it can cause families to rip eachother apart. It really is to bad that people are so concerned with becoming rich. If everyone were happy with what they had, think of the endless possibilities. Criticize me if you want, but you can't deny it.

[Pimpin Dsmstyle]

their excuse is that they pay an X amount more than the average citizen already. Just think, if you made that much money.. would you wanna pay more than most other people? Don't think I'm for this non-sense - I'm just taking the other sides approach.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by Pimpin Dsmstyle

their excuse is that they pay an X amount more than the average citizen already. Just think, if you made that much money.. would you wanna pay more than most other people? Don't think I'm for this non-sense - I'm just taking the other sides approach.

A flat tax of 10% across the board would fix alot of money issues for everybody.

[cudvig]

Yeah CVD is right. you dont just add all the numbers together.


-Colin

[JET]

The sun down in Florida must be getting to Mike

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by JET

The sun down in Florida must be getting to Mike

Spring break with all the "lovelys" down here will make a man weak.