WTF: Tranny minus 4th Gear = GAY - Page 2

**Kracka** · 10-12-2009

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Originally Posted by At-Least-It's-An-Evo

Tranny fluid this, tranny fluid that. Blah blah.

Whatever it takes to keep my car on the road...I don't see much point in having a car that does nothing but take up garage space.

**scheides** · 10-12-2009

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Originally Posted by kracka

whatever it takes to keep my car on the road.

+1

blackrosenova400 · 10-13-2009

Because they involve some effort....

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Originally Posted by At-Least-It's-An-Evo

Tranny fluid this, tranny fluid that. Blah blah.

Good luck with the trans Kevin. That sucks a lot. All you can really do is rebuild it and move along again. Thanks for reminding me why I don't like dsms anymore.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo · 10-13-2009

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Whatever it takes to keep my car on the road...I don't see much point in having a car that does nothing but take up garage space.

I hope that's not directly directed towards me or my cars, because I'm sure one of my car(s) have had more miles on the road (in a year), than your evo's had in it's entire ownership with you.

**Kracka** · 10-13-2009

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Originally Posted by At-Least-It's-An-Evo

I hope that's not directly directed towards me or my cars, because I'm sure one of my car(s) have had more miles on the road (in a year), than your evo's had in it's entire ownership with you.

Its directed towards anyone questioning the maintenance I perform on my cars, including you or anyone else. These cars break enough on their own, there is no reason to skimp on something so cheap and easy as drivetrain fluids.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo · 10-13-2009

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Originally Posted by Kracka

These cars break enough on their own.

Not true, I'm sure if he wasn't messing it wouldn't have broken. Their owners break them, then others find reasons as to why it broke... like tranny fluid.

Power and beating/racing/driving cars aggressively will wear a car's drivetrain out, all you can do is fix it when it breaks.

**mlomker** · 10-13-2009

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Originally Posted by At-Least-It's-An-Evo

Power and beating/racing/driving cars aggressively will wear a car's drivetrain out, all you can do is fix it when it breaks.

That's what I thought. People bad-mouth Mitsu but if you beat on any car then it's going to break, whether that's from the high temps of road course or the jolt of a 1/4 mile run.

People just don't mod their family sedans or drive them that way. I've had stock clutches last over 100k miles on more than one car. How many Evo VIII's have their original clutches right now?

Nightjoker7 · 10-13-2009

Mine has the original clutch and with 45k on it now, and I'm sure i drive harder then most people do.

**mlomker** · 10-13-2009

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Originally Posted by Nightjoker7

Mine has the original clutch and with 45k on it now, and I'm sure i drive harder then most people do.

That's cool. How much power have you added over stock?

**scheides** · 10-13-2009

Min lasted 38k: 21k miles stock, 9k miles@266whp/240wtq, 8k miles @305-320whp/300-320wtq, and about 10 parking lot launches. The parking lot launches are what ultimately killed it. I drive aggressive too, but ultimately, launching kills stock clutches faster than anything else.

I gotta say though, I didn't realize that 4th gear on DSMs pooped out at 400wtq. Suck.

turbotalon1g · 10-13-2009

I thought it was third more than forf. ESP at that power level

blackrosenova400 · 10-13-2009

Yeah, at these power levels, the trans case actually starts flexing, causing the gears from the counter shaft and input shaft to pull away from each other. Now the gear contact is on a weaker part of the tooth. Its why I shimmed up my counter shaft and input shaft up tighter to help prevent this, but does put more load on the bearings obviously.

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Originally Posted by scheides

Min lasted 38k: 21k miles stock, 9k miles@266whp/240wtq, 8k miles @305-320whp/300-320wtq, and about 10 parking lot launches. The parking lot launches are what ultimately killed it. I drive aggressive too, but ultimately, launching kills stock clutches faster than anything else.

I gotta say though, I didn't realize that 4th gear on DSMs pooped out at 400wtq. Suck.

desolate · 10-13-2009

Wow sucks to hear.. shit happens.. hopefully you fix it and get it back up!

sleepydsm · 10-13-2009

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Its directed towards anyone questioning the maintenance I perform on my cars, including you or anyone else. These cars break enough on their own, there is no reason to skimp on something so cheap and easy as drivetrain fluids.

Haha are you implying I was skimping? I used what I thought/felt was a good fluid. 2 years ago John Shep said that fluid was fine. And I highly doubt this failed because of fluid choice. I actually never liked the Redline cocktail. I do have redline heavyduty shockproof in he rear end and transfer case!

Anyways, I will eventually pull the tranny, ship it to Shep. If it's an arm and a leg, I'll just throw a stock tranny on. If it just costs an arm, I might spend a leg too and turn it into a "stage 4"

Or maybe I could just try to fix it myself hahaha. I've taken one of these apart nicely, it wasn't a big deal. Putting it back together and shimming it right, another story...

**goodhart** · 10-14-2009

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Originally Posted by sleepydsm

Or maybe I could just try to fix it myself hahaha. I've taken one of these apart nicely, it wasn't a big deal. Putting it back together and shimming it right, another story...

If you do this LET ME KNOW!! That way maybe we can do our together.

**Kracka** · 10-14-2009

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Originally Posted by sleepydsm

Haha are you implying I was skimping?

Not at all. From what I can tell it seems like you take care of your car, and like you said you were going based on information you thought was good from a supposedly reliable source.

I honestly for the life of me can't figure out why Shep continues to recommend the BG Synchroshit II for people to use. Its too thin and it sheers far too easily to properly protect a transmission. Fast shifting with perfect synchros? Yes. Long-term durability and protection? No.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo · 10-16-2009

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Originally Posted by Kracka

I honestly for the life of me can't figure out why Shep continues to recommend the BG Synchroshit II for people to use.

I'd probably take his word over yours.

Kevin, when's stage: dogbox comin!? Maybe stage: sc300 trade?

blackrosenova400 · 10-16-2009

Uh Shep does not recommend BG Syncroshift.

Taken directly from his sight
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There are several gear oils that will work depending on horsepower or intended use. For most transmissions we recommend Redline MT90 or Pennzoil Synchromesh. For drag use or high horsepower cars please contact us. Please let us know if you need any Redline gear oil.
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I run two quarts of Mt-90 for friction modifier, and two quarts of lightweight shockproof. Overfilled on purpose so that the gears dont pull the sump dry from using thicker lubricant. I may run Heavyweight in the summer.

Even if Shep recommended Syncroshift, I wouldn't use it but on a stock dsm.

**Kracka** · 10-16-2009

Good to see he finally changed his recommendation! That Penzoil stuff is no good either though b/c it sheers just as badly (its a GM fluid designed for a specific truck transmission).

Info that agrees with what I've been saying (this is all pretty new info on TRE's site too): http://www.teamrip.com/manual_transm...tion_info.html

**Kracka** · 10-16-2009

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Originally Posted by At-Least-It's-An-Evo

I'd probably take his word over yours.

Be my guest.