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Old 05-28-2011   #1
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Next, the fuel feed line in the tank. I know others use it but I'm thinking of getting rid of this snake and replacing it with some 30w10 or whatever the hell special (uncrinkled) fuel line is:
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Not saying it's an issue but I use the Ultimate Racing install kit and their instructions have you route the hose differently.

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Well Chris Carey at MAP is running this setup on his X with great luck so it is a viable option and not terribly expensive.
I wonder if it ended up working for Zivman, from the other forum. He hasn't returned to comment. I say that because isn't Chris Carey on stock turbo? Not much of a test otherwise.

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BIR is only a few weeks away, hoping to get fuel system issues sorted by then.
I'm feeling doubtful about my car at the moment. It'd be nice to be able to drive it up there, that's for sure.
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Old 05-28-2011   #2
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Not saying it's an issue but I use the Ultimate Racing install kit and their instructions have you route the hose differently.

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Yea, I sorta screwed the pooch installing mine, I had the pump out of the bracket when pushing on that hose...once its on its on...and thats why it ended up the way it did. It's not kinked anywhere but this is the reason I got some of that other hose, to try and route it more smoothly.


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I wonder if it ended up working for Zivman, from the other forum. He hasn't returned to comment. I say that because isn't Chris Carey on stock turbo? Not much of a test otherwise.
Yea, he said he hit the limit aaaand they have a new turbo program they're about to launch so...you do the math We'll see I guess but he was very honest and plain about running into the limit and rewiring it helping. To me the kinda downside to a rewire vs a BAP is that 14v is all you get. If I go with a BAP at least I can turn it up later if need be
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once its on its on
I managed to get mine off the other day when I swapped pumps but it did result in an E85 bath.
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Old 05-28-2011   #4
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Re: beaterX project thread

I had to laugh at the GoPro moving from the wind. Is there a way to tighten it more or are you forced to deal with that?
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I had to laugh at the GoPro moving from the wind. Is there a way to tighten it more or are you forced to deal with that?
Yea just need more practice with the rigging thats all
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WTF I talked to Jens @ FIC thursday afternoon and he said he'd throw the stuff in the mail. Umm yea, guess I get to play with the fuel system more this weekend (if I feel up for it!) and a bday present from Jens :P





Old setup on the left, new on the right (with stock spacer)
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Old 05-29-2011   #7
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Re: beaterX project thread

Spacers for a fuel pump, haha. What has the world come to? Put a fuel cell in it or something, seems like it would be easier and cheaper in the end.
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Spacers for a fuel pump, haha. What has the world come to? Put a fuel cell in it or something, seems like it would be easier and cheaper in the end.
Spacers for the fuel rail man :P No fuel cell or surge tank for this thing, it already has the tiniest trunk of any 4-door sedan in on the planet!
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already has the tiniest trunk of any 4-door sedan in on the planet!
True dat. Good thing I don't need it for anything.
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Old 05-29-2011   #10
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Oooh god I may really need that BAP sooner than later! Anna got me this for my bday:


Chad @ CBRD raves about these, if it can hold boost like a Ron-crushed stock bov but have the driveability of an uncrushed stocker, I will be a happy boy!
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Very nice, I'm also thinking about trying one of those. Looking forward to your review!
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Nice bday gift
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Re: beaterX project thread

BAP now! Do it Buy lomkers doesn't he have one hes not using?

I want to see another 450whp bbx at DB!
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Buy lomkers doesn't he have one hes not using?
I'm using it. The Weldon install will require a custom mount for the trunk and a retune. I'm guessing that Shane will be far too busy until after Proving Grounds...he was last year.

I offered to let scheides test the Jays 340 pump. Not sure if it's enough difference or not.
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Took some time today to play with teh beater. Here's the new injector adapter on the left, old one on the right. See the two kinda 'wings' on the side on the new one and not on the old one? That is what helps keep it straight in the plug and not necessitate zip tie racing :P Also the 'hook' on the top is bigger so it seems to hold more snug. The EV1 connector (dsm/ct9a evo-style) is revised as well. It is more sold too, although seating them and getting them off is tougher as it is tighter:


Here's the new spacer setup installed. The one end of the fitting is machined a bit so it slides into the fuel rail or IM properly, and the outside donut (see previous pictures) helps keep it flat and properly supported. The injectors fit absolutely *perfect* now, I am SO HAPPY! These things are fidgity when installing and I always drop them, so I went ahead and put a few little dabs of RTV inbetween the three pieces to just keep them from falling apart on install (and hopefully uninstall whenever that day comes):


Cobb BOV installed, that took all of 3 minutes! Only item of note is that the boost source nipple faces 6 o'clock and the stocker points to around 10:30 so I had to adjust the hose for that:


Driving impressions? I am *really* impressed so far, even turning it about 3/4 to full tight (I think) it is stock-like driveability on the freeway and around town and it seems to hold boost just fine, I'll be reviewing logs this week.

After everything under the hood was buttoned up, I decided to yank the fuel hanger. Spaz got me some 30r10 hose and I had to see if it would fit.

First item of note, the filter/screen is bent but NOT kinked, so no fuel blockage there:


Then I removed the bendy hose and test fit the 30r10...bad news. Even if it was long enough it just wants to fold over on itself once the pump is where it would be in the tank. Boo. Really need the cobb-style S-shaped fuel line for this I think...maybe it wouldn't get kinked and I guestimated placement wrong...but still it is close and it wants to kink flat.


So back in with the bendy-straw hose, I routed it more smoothly this time:


Notice how it doesn't get kinked when the top is compressed as it would be in the tank:


Also took apart the little return filter that lomker linked to in his thread, mine is debris-free but I can see why people might want to mod that stuff, its like a needle-hole!

Back together it runs like a champ! I even put the engine cover back on, I am officially done messing around under the hood for a while.

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I offered to let scheides test the Jays 340 pump. Not sure if it's enough difference or not.
I just need to figure out how to rewire the stock plug for it and I'm all over it. Do the pins on the stock plug pull out easy, or did you have yours hardwired?

Also noted the guy from evomn.net who simply re-wired his Jays 340 pump and is using the stock FPR....tempting to say the least!
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Also noted the guy from evomn.net who simply re-wired his Jays 340 pump and is using the stock FPR....tempting to say the least!
Interestingly enough, I got everything you could need on hand...a relay for a rewire, the Jays pump, and a 40amp BAP.
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ah, forgot you haven't taken it out yet.

Scheides do it, the 340, try it out
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Ooooh, right, now that you have the new biggie pump in you won't need the BAP anymore? Sounds like we need to team up for a weekend on each other's cars
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Oh really? Lomkers old one?
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