View Poll Results: Where do I go from here? (now that all of the children have grown up...)
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Build the X
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No one wants a $60k evo with high monthly payments, get out now and buy a 9.
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04-20-2013
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#2721
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I hate that stupid o-ring. Bad design imho, rips every time.
Thwarted by a battery eh? Geez. MAP has a lightweight unit you should try out:
http://www.maperformance.com/tomioka...i-tr-b600.html
It hits 20psi in a nice spot but torque is still pretty low and slowly climbs through the pull, that's crazy. My car (and yours on ef4 probably) made ~400wtq (dynojet) at 4500rpm so this setup is a good 100wtq below that there....maybe with some tuning it'll come back, but I think that's where the really big snail is obviously showing itself...the power up top is gonna be hella!
Will be curious to see how you like it on the street at this power level and then you know, what breaks when you start running some more boost
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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04-20-2013
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#2722
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I am going with the odyessey pc925 i think, putting some weight back on but a better/stronger battery with more reserve.
I am not sure about the down low yet, keep in mine pull wasn't started til after 3500 rpms and it got up in there in 1000rpms. We couldn't get into down low very well with the fueling problems down there.
I think it will be better with more boost and some actual mivec and tuning etc.
This is still very preliminary It feels like it hits hard down low still.
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04-20-2013
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#2723
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Amazing awesome how early the power comes on. Can't wait for 35psi pulls.
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04-24-2013
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#2724
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
Amazing awesome how early the power comes on. Can't wait for 35psi pulls.
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Me either, 35 will be ripping I think!
Just bought a new boost gague to match my AEM wideband. Going to install that this weekend when I move all my gauges up top to my new gauge pod.
Also ordered the PC925 battery, hopefully its here friday or monday at the latest.
The AMS battery is a Genesis 16EP, which is for snow mobiles or something. So its way undersized, basically just for drag racing etc. I think I made the right choice moving up a bit, more weight but worth not struggling to start if it works.
Going to head over the knoxville's tonight for install on his G8 and hopefully some tuning on my end too if Jon is available and my car starts.
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04-24-2013
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#2725
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by scheides
I hate that stupid o-ring. Bad design imho, rips every time.
Thwarted by a battery eh? Geez. MAP has a lightweight unit you should try out:
http://www.maperformance.com/tomioka...i-tr-b600.html
It hits 20psi in a nice spot but torque is still pretty low and slowly climbs through the pull, that's crazy. My car (and yours on ef4 probably) made ~400wtq (dynojet) at 4500rpm so this setup is a good 100wtq below that there....maybe with some tuning it'll come back, but I think that's where the really big snail is obviously showing itself...the power up top is gonna be hella!
Will be curious to see how you like it on the street at this power level and then you know, what breaks when you start running some more boost
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Yea, I think torque might be lagging behind for sure, but spool isnt' I don't think. I think this setup, if started at the same RPM will be the same time or better than the EF4.
It looks like I hit 400wtq on the EF4 at around 4200rpms on the last setup.
but i also started that pull 600rpms sooner.
I think I will loose a bit down low but I think with MIVEC tuning and some timing that it won't be too bad. This kit so far looks impressive, can't wait to get more results.
Last edited by Murlo26; 04-24-2013 at 03:20 PM..
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04-25-2013
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#2726
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Jonny boy was busy bee tonight, no tuning.
Tried again for a spool graph, still breaking up from lean ness I think.
Here is my try...if I started too low it wouldn't give me a full clean run.
Here is starting higher, revving out Still wastegate.
Seriously can't wait to get this bitch rolling. Feels nasty up top.
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04-25-2013
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#2727
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I haven't seen the SD stuff for the X, but the VE has got to be way out of whack around 4000rpm. Keep going, don't blow it up. You'll get it.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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04-25-2013
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#2728
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Nice, going for some power I see.
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04-25-2013
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#2729
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Is funding Exxon.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ham Lake
Drives: like a bat outta hell!
Posts: 7,983
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Full boost at 4100 isn't bad at all. Looks promising and can't wait to see it running good!
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My motorcycle is stock and reliable, my Talon is neither!
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04-25-2013
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#2730
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by scheides
I haven't seen the SD stuff for the X, but the VE has got to be way out of whack around 4000rpm. Keep going, don't blow it up. You'll get it.
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zero knock through any run i have logged so far, its running very strong so far. Just shitty down low. I agree, i think the VE (MAP tables) and maybe fuel calibration table need adjusting down there as the new turbo just flows so much more, the car felt pretty beastly with wastegate pressure, liking it so far.
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
Nice, going for some power I see.
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Maybe
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Originally Posted by JET
Full boost at 4100 isn't bad at all. Looks promising and can't wait to see it running good!
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I think it will potentially be even better with mivec and proper fueling etc. I wasn't able to really get into down low as the fueling is so off down there. Once I get fueling figured out, the car should spool by 4kish I think.
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04-25-2013
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#2731
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: stillwater
Drives: cbr 1000rr repsol
Posts: 1,451
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
So are tuning the car are you going to let Shane tune it.
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04-25-2013
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#2732
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Circle Pines
Drives: 1992 talon tsi 1995 corolla
Posts: 2,048
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Looking good! Can't wait to see what it does when you get everything sorted out!
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04-25-2013
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#2733
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by 93gtpeater
So are tuning the car are you going to let Shane tune it.
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Neither, Jon Drenass has been tuning the car. He's from california, used to own HBspeed, then worked for Cobb when Cobb bought him out now owns his own shop again.
I have been using Jon since last Spring when I wanted to switch to SD (hybrid mode).
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04-26-2013
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#2734
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Well, keep in mind, very early stages of tuning, sorting out bunches of stuff. This wasn't on a flat road really either, uphill a tiny bit, but i wanted to show spool. We are fighting some surge too right now, mivec adjustment coming.
But the turbo hits really hard, spools in less than 1000rpms.
Sad news tonight...
tactrix broke Sending to Colby to fix tomorrow, going to try and borrow one in the mean time, but might delay tuning some. The car is beastly now. Destroyed a modded cobalt SS...he pulled up on my while logging and the car was feeling good so i ran him, but bus lengths on him, 2-3-4 run. The car broke my 275's loose from 2nd to 3rd, traction control kicked in.
Anyway, spool is looking good and we are working on getting load down to where we want it so I can run higher boost later.
To be continued....
Scheides or anyone, can I borrow a tactrix 2.0?
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04-26-2013
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#2735
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
double post somehow.
Last edited by Murlo26; 04-26-2013 at 12:13 AM..
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04-26-2013
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#2736
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Tehehodi STILL has mine. Make him give it to you LOL
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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04-26-2013
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#2737
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Text him for me, I need one this weekend to log/tune with. Wanna get this bitch rolling!
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04-26-2013
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#2738
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
You can borrow mine Murlo, txt me and we will hook up.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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04-26-2013
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#2739
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by scheides
You can borrow mine Murlo, txt me and we will hook up.
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Sweet, thanks Scheides.
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04-26-2013
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#2740
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
So he is tuning this remotely?
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