4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe - Page 10

Constant_Project21 · 02-01-2009

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Originally Posted by RLFebo

I think this Genisis is going to be the next civic. I can see a bunch of "tuners" doing just what was said. Just because it has a turbo from the factory. I feel that this will not bring good things for the glory of the 4b11.

I do think there will be a good amount of rich kids getting these for their birthdays, driving them like a dumbass, and wrapping them around tree's and other off road items. But in the right hands, these cars seem like they got some potential. And lets just say, you don't have to be Einstein work on a honda civic. I think the less tech savy tuner's will stray away from a car like this, it's a little too much for the normal honda tuner to have to deal with.

(btw, I apologize to any stupid honda drivers I may have offended).

Febo · 02-01-2009

Starquests are for teh iffy's

FattyBoomBatty · 02-01-2009

You're just jealous.

Febo · 02-01-2009

Not quite. Im your new StarQuest buddy. Just bought an 86 Starion

FattyBoomBatty · 02-01-2009

I take back all the horrible things I've ever said about you.

Febo · 02-01-2009

Awwww, your so sweet! I cant wait to start being quest buddies!! lol

FattyBoomBatty · 02-01-2009

yeah, you better bring it.

...to all the meets.

Febo · 02-01-2009

All of them??? Thats alot of commitment on my end.

FattyBoomBatty · 02-01-2009

well, whatever, if you need help, let me know.

Kevin 1G Drummer · 02-01-2009

The E-brochure was released today, but the pdf. is too big for me to attach here

I could attach it to an email if you wanted to see it, so PM me if you want it.

Kevin 1G Drummer · 02-03-2009

Canadian pricing has been leaked!

The following are 2010 Genesis Coupe Canadian Pricing;

2.0T 6 speed - $24,495
2.0T Auto - $25,995
2.0T Premium 6 speed - $27,495
2.0T Premium auto - $28,995
2.0T GT - $30,745

3.8L 6 speed - $32,995
3.8L ZF Auto - $34,795
3.8L GT 6 speed (full load) -$34,995
3.8L GT ZF Auto - $36,795

Dealer letter that was dispursed to employees. Keep in mind this letter went out to Canadian dealerships so options and pricing will not be 100% the same.

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2010 Genesis Coupe

Hyundai is pleased to release pricing and packaging for the all-new 2010 Genesis Coupe. The
Genesis Coupe represents Hyundai’s most dynamic performance car ever fusing jaw-dropping design
with blistering performance.

The rear wheels of the Genesis Coupe are powered by a 2.0L Turbocharged in-line 4 cylinder
producing 210 HP and 223 lb-ft of torque while the V6 engine generates 306 HP and 266 lb-ft of
torque, both engines have been designed to run on regular fuel. Mix this with standard features like
Bluetooth™, 18” Alloy wheels, Electronic Stability Control, 6 Airbags and you have a recipe for a
seriously competitive sports coupe that few rivals can match!

Genesis Coupe comes with available luxury and performance technologies such as HID headlights,
Proximity key with push button start, Brembo brake package, limited slip differential, 19” Alloys, GT
Calibrated Suspension with Front Strut tower bar, heated leather seats and much more all at a price
you would never expect.

The 2009 Genesis will be offered in two distinct trim levels, the 2.0T and the 3.8 and will have an
astonishing starting price of only $24,495, well below the starting price of the Mitsubishi Eclipse,
Honda Civic Si and the Chevrolet Cobalt SS.

Packaging/Content

The 2009 Genesis Coupe offers an outstanding array of performance and luxury equipment that far
exceeds any competitive offerings at a similar price.

2010 Genesis Coupe 2.0T - $24,495

In the heart of this beast lies a 2.0L in-line four cylinder Turbocharger with a front mounted
intercooler for increased engine efficiency and power. A 6-speed manual transmission is offered as
standard equipment along with steering wheel mounted Bluetooth™, audio and cruise controls, 18”
alloy wheels, 6 airbags, Electronic Stability Control (ESC) complete with 100% override ability, antilock
brake system (ABS) with electronic brake-force distribution (EBD), fog lights, metal grain
interior trim, USB & Auxiliary audio outlets, Automatic light control, trip computer, leather wrapped
steering wheel and gear shift knob, power and heated exterior mirrors and an AM/FM/XM/CD/Mp3
stereo system with 6 speakers.

The 2010 Genesis Coupe 2.0T can be equipped with an optional Premium Package which includes
high demand features such as a power sunroof, heated leather seats, Infinity AM/FM/XM/ 6-disc CD
changer/Mp3 stereo with 10 speakers. For the performance oriented consumer there is the GT
Package is the ticket. This package includes a Brembo braking system, limited slip differential,
unique black leather seats with premium red cloth inserts, 19” alloys and HID Headlamps.

All the above 2.0T trims are available with an optional 5 speed automatic transmission with paddleshifters.

2010 Genesis 3.8 - $32,995

The Genesis 3.8 features an advanced all aluminum naturally aspirated V6 engine displacing an
impressive 306 horsepower (with regular fuel) coupled with a 6 speed manual transmission and a
standard limited slip rear differential. Features on the 3.8 include all of the equipment of the Genesis
2.0T premium plus mirror mounted turn signals, chrome lower fascia slats, HID headlights with autolevelling,
proximity key with push button start, power driver seat, auto-dimming rear view mirror
with Homelink™ and compass, and premium side trim door scuff.

The 2009 Genesis Coupe 3.8 can also be equipped with an optional GT package and available on all
3.8 models is a ZF 6 speed automatic transmission with paddle-shifters.

For detailed information on features and pricing for all models and packages, please refer to the
attached price sheet.

Available colours and product specifications can be found on ePower, under the Marketing
heading in the Guides section.

Given the exchange rate, if nothing changes, US pricing would be:

2.0T 6 speed - $19,689 US
2.0T Auto - $20,895 US
2.0T Premium 6 speed - $22,100
2.0T Premium auto - $23,306
2.0T GT - $24,712

3.8L 6 speed - $26,521
3.8L ZF Auto - $27,968
3.8L GT 6 speed (full load) -$28,128
3.8L GT ZF Auto - $29,575

Thanks to www.GenCoupe.com for this info!

**Halon** · 02-03-2009

Damn that's getting up there in compression numbers. How much of a difference could something as simple as a thicker headgasket make?

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 02-03-2009

I hope it isn't like a Madzaspeed Protege where they just took the NA motor and slapped a turbo on it without lowering the compression or making it able to hold any power.

You could throw in a thicker HG. It's an extremely common practice with the 2JZGE found in the SC300 and and NA MKIV Supra. Those motors are 10.0:1 compression stock, but have very strong internals. You can throw in a stock TT HG and get it down to around 9.3:1 compression or put in a thicker one from Cometic or one of the Supra shops and get it down in the 8.0 - 9.0:1 range.

**Halon** · 02-03-2009

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Originally Posted by ecoli

I hope it isn't like a Madzaspeed Protege where they just took the NA motor and slapped a turbo on it without lowering the compression or making it able to hold any power.

That is exactly what I was trying to get at earlier. I hear a lot of hype about how this car is getting the same motor as the EVO's (meaning 4b11t). But from my research, the only thing I've found to be known for sure is that it'll have a turboed 4b11, but there are different variations of the 4b11. The evo's 4b11 was beefed up to handle the extra power, but nothing I've read had solid evidence showing if this is the beefed up one in the evo's, or if it's a weaker standard 4b11 with a turbo slapped on it.

That's just what my research has shown. If anyone has a link to any evidence that states otherwise, please share!

Kevin 1G Drummer · 02-04-2009

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Originally Posted by Halon

That is exactly what I was trying to get at earlier. I hear a lot of hype about how this car is getting the same motor as the EVO's (meaning 4b11t). But from my research, the only thing I've found to be known for sure is that it'll have a turboed 4b11, but there are different variations of the 4b11. The evo's 4b11 was beefed up to handle the extra power, but nothing I've read had solid evidence showing if this is the beefed up one in the evo's, or if it's a weaker standard 4b11 with a turbo slapped on it.

That's just what my research has shown. If anyone has a link to any evidence that states otherwise, please share!

I don't know for sure if it's the exact same block as the EvoX, but I do know that the Genesis motor does have oil squirters, and the non turbo 4b11 doesn't. I've been looking for some schematic, or pictures of it, but nobody has taken pics with the head off, or the bottom end to see if it has the 4bolt mains and reinforced sleeves. But as far as I know, there's only one variant of the 4b11t, and one variant of the non turbo 4b11. Also, I think the non turbo 4b11 uses 10:1 compression pistons.