View Poll Results: Where do I go from here? (now that all of the children have grown up...)
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Build the X
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No one wants a $60k evo with high monthly payments, get out now and buy a 9.
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06-08-2012
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#1
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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06-08-2012
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#2
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 sorry I couldn't resist.
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06-09-2012
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#3
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
That hurts! Lol
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06-09-2012
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#4
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
:flowers:
If you are cruising around sat. night hit me up. I'll be outside working on the car.
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06-10-2012
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#5
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
First pull in a long time with some boost...car is feeling pretty good right now. I mean the pull felt doggy as its 10's for afr's, 19-20psi, 10* timing at most and pump gas, but its progress!!
Can't wait for some more boost and then finally some E85 again.
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06-11-2012
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#6
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
The car is pretty knock prone down low...(2500-3500) area so we are trying to dial it back there, but he thinks its just the motor noise. I guess we will know when he trys adding more fuel etc.
edit: FYI, these numbers aren't really comparable to yesterdays...different road...this one wasn't flat at all, downhill a bit, so for sure inflated. But yesterdays where I went WOT was slightly uphill so whatever lol. I am not really doing the pulls for VD, simply for tuning but yea.
Last edited by Murlo26; 06-11-2012 at 03:01 PM..
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06-12-2012
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#7
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
So tonight while doing a WOT run, the car felt like it hit a wall. I thought maybe it was IC pipe or wastegate arm that popped off...nope none of that.
Spent like an hour reviewing logs and finally found that in my map the MAF tables above 3.4V were all messed up. Found out the MAF table either got corrupted or Jon just pasted the wrong stuff in for the high volt side. Anyway, glad it wasn't anything major, I was seriously like omg wtf just happened, As the car seriously flatlined (i thought the motor was toast again  ) but its just that it fuel cut essentially... but it lives to fight another day!
So, reviewed the cruise/idle logs. Mine are within 1-2%, car drives better than stock now.
It's just WOT and partial boost pulls now, no more cruising around aimlessly.
Last edited by Murlo26; 06-12-2012 at 12:47 AM..
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06-12-2012
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#8
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
So Jon also showed me this which I have seen screenshots of before but never knew what it was. $25 for this software which is apparently ECUtek hacked, but damn, it makes reading logs so much damn easier.
Here is just a few quick shots of me playing around with it.
WOT run from dyno above. (411whp one or whatever)
Same run...as you can see MAP (Speed density) is the red line, MAF calc is the grey and actual load is the blue.
Just so you can see how the Evo X ecu looks at those.
stupid jagged maf
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06-12-2012
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#9
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Latest pull today....car felt pretty damn good.
Still a spot during spool where I think MAF drops a bit low and it leans out a bit, but Jon will clean that up
Car honestly felt awesome for the first time in months, very smooth, and actually a bit of pep now!
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06-12-2012
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#10
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Prior Lake
Drives: Icarus
Posts: 1,375
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Nice! Now leave it alone and bring it to the PG 
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06-12-2012
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#11
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
^Can't, must smooth out the pump gas tune a bit more. It's still very very conservative. 10's AFR's and I think I just barely hitting 13* of timing up top.
Not sure what timing is safe on pump at 10:1 compression, I am guessing 14-15 is still "safe" but I will let the professional deal with that. I think I will be close to 500whp with a bit more fuel work, bit more boost and smoothing out.
Not looking to break records with the pump tune at all.
Then comes E85 fun. I think to even be close to competitive at PG i will need an E85 tune. I don't think I will do great there but the better I do the more fun I will have.
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06-12-2012
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#12
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: stillwater
Drives: cbr 1000rr repsol
Posts: 1,451
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
When you get it tuned on corn lets run. From a roll or a dead stop
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06-12-2012
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#13
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Quote:
Originally Posted by 93gtpeater
When you get it tuned on corn lets run. From a roll or a dead stop
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Sure, hopefully I will be putting corn in the car by this weekend.
oh, another bit of playing with logviewer.
Here is another shot (better) of map calcs vs. maf calcs. Look how ugly the maf line is, then how nice the map line is...then notice how smooth load follows it!

Last edited by Murlo26; 06-12-2012 at 01:37 PM..
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06-12-2012
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#14
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: stillwater
Drives: cbr 1000rr repsol
Posts: 1,451
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Looks like this new set up should make for a very real tuned car. You going to break 500 at db?
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06-12-2012
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#15
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Don't know...I would assume. Even on Shane's conservative tune my car hit 494 at DB last fall on E70. With more fine tuning and a lil boost I don't see why not.
My real goal has always been 600whp on a dynojet which is like 520ish on DB's dyno. We will see if I get there. Not going to push it but if it happens I will be happy. If not I have a few more mods to add yet (intake manifold and throttle body) then its on to a bigger turbo if I really want to add more power which I don't think i do. My car feels like a great balance of response/top end as I could expect out of a 4 cylinder (in an evo X at least).
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06-12-2012
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#16
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: KY/MN/Afghanistan
Drives: EVO IX SSL
Posts: 413
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
...My real goal has always been 600whp on a dynojet...
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I thought that last year for my car too, haha.
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06-12-2012
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#17
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
But you guys are internet racers, you have to at least have a chance on paper to be happy.
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06-12-2012
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#18
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
But you guys are internet racers, you have to at least have a chance on paper to be happy.
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I drive my car more than you do
So boom.
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06-13-2012
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#19
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
Drives: C8 Stingray Z51
Posts: 20,620
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I drive my car more than you do
So boom.
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HAHAHA ...and owned!
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06-13-2012
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#20
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I drive my car more than you do
So boom.
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Just this year you have so don't get too excited.
But for you that just means you are closer to:

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