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Old 09-22-2011   #1
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http://www.shtf1.com/

I'll be going to this on Saturday. It's an end-of-the-world themed 3 gun type shoot.
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Old 09-22-2011   #2
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Damn shtf looks like a great time. I've always wanted to go to Outbreak Omega but have yet to make it.
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Old 09-26-2011   #3
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I'm looking at getting a cheaper rifle to have around. Nothing too exciting but maybe create a gtfo bag as an insurance policy for whatever.

It seems like the Keltec SU16C fits that bill and won't hurt my budget too much. Anyone have any opinions on them? Thanks.
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Old 09-26-2011   #4
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A mini-14 would also be around your budget. I haven't used either but I've heard good things about both.

But if you're looking for something for a go bag, I'd go with a KISS AR15 or AK. AKs are stupid cheap but it's because of their cheap quality. I picked up one from Fleet Farm for $430 on sale with two mags. But the mags rattle and fitment definitely isn't great. The bolt kept sticking back until it worked off enough metal. The mag also rattles and some have canted front sights.

Ammo for AK47/74s is also A LOT cheaper than .223/5.56. This is because it's military surplus and is "corrosive". It doesn't eat barrels immediately but does require you to clean your rifle fairly quickly after use.

The AR15 is quite a bit more expensive to initially buy and practice with but IMO it has way more upsides.
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Old 09-26-2011   #5
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Yeah, i was looking at the SKS due to the cheap used prices and ammo. I figure for only a nominal budget increase I would get something far better with the SU. I don't really want to plunk down the money for an AR because I'll only shoot whatever I buy enough to get comfortable with it then stash it. It's hard to justify the money on something that I plan on gathering dust.
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Old 09-26-2011   #6
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Just remember, you will lose proficiency not practicing. You will lose muscle memory also. And you have to keep whatever you stashed oiled at least once every 6 months - year if you want to consider it grab n go or just to keep it in decent shape even.

It sounds like you just want something to plink with honestly. Get a .22 and have fun with $7/100 rounds. Or a glock with an exo coating that you never have to oil.

Oh and if you haven't looked it up yet, you'll need a permit to purchase. All gun stores require a permit for hanguns and assault type weapons (sks, ak, ar). Private parties don't but 95% of honest ones will ask to see one.

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Well if you want something cheap to shoot, easy to grab and shoot in a pinch, how about a old bolt action rifle? I bought a Mosin Nagant and 440 rounds for under $250 with a case. Its loaded and ready to go all the time unless I am headed to the range, and is fun to shoot. I figure it it takes more then 5 shoots I will just throw it at them.

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Old 09-26-2011   #8
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Oh, I know there would be some upkeep in having a gun around. I used to work at the Horse and Hunt club, so I know how much work is required to keep things working right (and what happens if you don't). I'm not super concerned about being able to shoot tight groupings. I just meant able to work everything properly and get familiar with what I buy. I've also looked up the permit to purchase and know that all police departments process the paperwork for free. I've done a ton of reading so far and know there's a ton more I don't know. I know a bolt action would do exactly what I want, but I'd rather own a semi auto if given the choice.
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I got my SKS a few years ago and I love it. Its more accurate than I am and its cheap to buy/maintain/shoot/modify.
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I love Mosins. $80 for a rifle that will outlast you. Ammo is ridiculously cheap for that gun also, 440 rounds for $78.
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Old 09-28-2011   #11
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I'd say SKS fits the bill for you. A permit to purchase is NOT required to buy an SKS. They are semi auto with a 10 round internal mag, there are few things that can go wrong. You can get one for $300 or less without the quality control issues that plague Century built AK's (any AK you can buy for under $600 is probably built by Century). I've owned a Yugo SKS for probably 5 years now with thousands of rounds through it. I have never cleaned it. On purpose. And note that only surplus ammo for these guns will be corrosive. You can easily find new manufacture Russian ammo for 20 to 25 cents per round.

If you're willing to settle for a bolt action spend a little more for a surplus Yugo or Czech Mauser in 8mm. Ammo is equally as cheap as for a Mosin but the function of the gun is smoother and faster. Reloading the gun takes 5 seconds, not 30, and the bolt wont get stuck every 10 rounds or so trying to eject a spent casing. If the SHTF I wouldn't take a Russian Mosin unless I needed it for a club.
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I know I'm changing the subject but. Thinking on replacing my bird gun with one of these.

http://www.stoegerindustries.com/fir...model_3500.php

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Old 09-28-2011   #13
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Re: The Gun Thread

I was always partial to the Beretta AL390, It's a great field gun.

Can I tag along and try out somebodies SKS next time you guys go shooting if I pay for the ammo? I'd like to stick with a semi auto because I'm left handed, so working a bolt isn't the greatest for me (plus semi auto is more fun).
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Any one have any input on a para ordnance gi expert 1911? Might be picking on up from my buddy. All of my gun use is old hand me down military guns that have had the tar beaten out of them. Thanks guys.
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Just bought my first official "firearm". It's just a stripped lower for an AR15, but it's the part that requires the permit to purchase. I'll slowly be acquiring the rest of the parts online to build it into a longer barrel varmint style setup.
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Spikes makes some really good stuff. Almost everything they make is mil-spec. Pick up a Nickel Boron coated bolt carrier group if you can.
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I think I'm going to buy a complete upper receiver assembly all in one, just to make sure everything is together and to spec. Wasn't going to get any brand in particular, just DPMS, RRA, or whomever has the best deal. Probably some sort of 18" or 20" SS barrel.
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This is sort of on topic. See if you can spot me in my little unexpected cameo in this popular youtube video. I'll give you a hint, I'm the only Asian guy lol. Seriosly though that's me so you gun guys might have shot a bad guy poster of me without realizing it.

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Re: The Gun Thread

I know i probably have to reread this whole thread. But Jessica and I are in the market for an AR-15, mostly for playing around shooting targets up north or at the range, and i suppose for home defense. (Mostly scare the bejesus out of anyone breaking into the house, See a pit bull, and then see the owner holding an Assault rifle i think would work)

Ive been looking at a couple and doing research, such as finding the right caliber, style, and manufacturer. After reading this article http://www.chuckhawks.com/definitive...ce_caliber.htm to kind of gauge what caliber i want to look at. I'm thinking the .308/7.62 would be a fun round to shoot, and at a good price. Also thinking around a 16" barrel. don't think i want to go too much smaller than that.
Ive been looking at offerings from DPMS as well as Rock River Arms. Don't really want to spend too much over $1000.
Any Advice or other manufactures i should take a look at? This weekend we are going to go to the range and fire off some rounds to get a feel for the AR's. I've only shot .22 rifles and hand guns, but looking for something that not only looks cool, but is fun and smooth to shoot.
Also a good search for reviews and field tests is going on youtube and searching "Trial By Fire Sledgehammer" They go through a bunch of different equipment and run through a course that makes pretty good use of it.
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