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Old 11-02-2010   #21
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Hell yez u kan mek mo powa wid da vsizzle, twice the turbo twice the power, 2 16Gs on pump at like 12psi make over 400psi, you'd have to max a 16G on a dsm to even get that much.

2 16Gs maxed out on a 3S would get you over 700 easy, thats insane hp.
I say if you can do it, then get it done it would be so badass.

haha finally reasonable words!
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Old 11-02-2010   #22
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lol im pretty sure a stock vr4 engine in a 97-99 gsx would be faster than the stock 4g63 that would come in it!!
You do realize that there are LOCAL cars making 600-700-800-1000whp on a 4G63 right?

The point is why try and reinvent the wheel? If you have the know-how and expertise to do this then I am all in for pics and a project thread, but realistically you can do so much with the 4G63 w/o doing a crazy swap it makes the idea seem laughable (thus some of the responses in this thread).

Besides, enough stuff breaks on these cars as it is!
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Old 11-02-2010   #23
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You do realize that there are LOCAL cars making 600-700-800-1000whp on a 4G63 right?

The point is why try and reinvent the wheel? If you have the know-how and expertise to do this then I am all in for pics and a project thread, but realistically you can do so much with the 4G63 w/o doing a crazy swap it makes the idea seem laughable (thus some of the responses in this thread).

Besides, enough stuff breaks on these cars as it is!
oh yea i totally get that but the vr4 comes with 320hp stock and i could put not to much money into it to make it 400-500hp and i would be good right there i would need alot of money into the 4g63 to make it push 400-500 dont u agree on that?
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hahaha worst thread/troll ever.
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Old 11-02-2010   #25
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What's 'not a lot of money' vs 'a lot of money'

Again, it depends on your know-how and level of expertise. You could build a 500hp (or 500whp?) 4G63 for $5k pretty easily, whereas your vr4 swap would take who knows how much just to complete, then turbos, AEM EMS (no real cheap tuning solution for that platform, another drawback), turbos, intercoolers, exhaust, and all custom fab work b/c of the swap, oops you just spent another $10k!

Go buy a FMIC ($500-1000), Evo3 16g ($500), 1000cc injectors ($300), walbro fuel pump ($75), exhaust ($500-800), and DSMLink ($500), go see shane@DB Performance and voila, you have an insane fun setup(seriously!) and nearly the oh-so-coveted 500hp you are after. $3k total investment on top of your GS-T you have listed in your profile.

Spend the rest of the money from your swap on strippers and blow in vegas, savings, and a fund for when parts break on the DSM.
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Re: could this work!?!

I want to see the vr4 swap, the powerband would be so much bigger at any power level and would only be improved upon making more power.

Plus if you are fwd, then you have more weight over the wheels = more traction.

I say do the swap good luck and bring that bitch to the cookout next year and win.
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Old 11-02-2010   #27
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Old 11-02-2010   #28
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Re: could this work!?!

I'm going to go a different direction here...

Have you thought about what it'll do to the weight balance? The car's already 59% front 41% rear, and putting a heavier motor up front is supposed to help it do what exactly? The car will do one thing on power, and that's move in a straight line.
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Old 11-02-2010   #29
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DSMs really don't do anything else too well.
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All I will say it can be done. there is a few mirage guys that have stuffed them in to a mirage shell (less room then a dsm) they worked good till they wanted to work on the engine and it had to come back out to do a timing belt. the one guy that has had it in his car for a few years just took it all out to put in a evo engine to make life better
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If you have to ask, then no don't do it.

And LOLers at V10 swap
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Old 11-02-2010   #33
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Re: could this work!?!

Ok, i Have like 5 mins before class, and i just ran though this and have to get my input down.

/facepalm.

You have no IDEA what luck you have with the 4g63 in there. You have something i like to call SPACE!!!!

I could become rich by making bets with people. $5 per bolt and the deal is from 5' away you toss the bolt into the engine bay. If it hits the ground i pay you $5, and if it doesn't you pay me $5. I would be able to retire if i did that once a week at a random car show for one year.

The TT motor in those cars only makes it twice as hard for mounting FMIC's in it, turbo upgrades wouldn't work at all due to the factory one's being crap. Your talking 300 bhp in the TT motor and the scale to jump up is crazy. They joke on the forums about if you want to run 12 seconds, you need to spend $100 in mods. To run 11's your have to spend $1,000 and to get into 10's your looking at spending $10,000 if you want to do it right.

BUILD THE 4G63 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!

Reminds me of the guy who wanted to drop a 440 into his stealth, since it's a dodge it will fit right in.....
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Old 11-02-2010   #34
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yea the space factor is what is causing my second thoughts..
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Old 11-02-2010   #35
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The fact this idea is retarded is what should be giving you second thoughts.

build the damn 4g63 and be done with it. You already need to swap it to a 6 bolt since you seem swap happy.
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fyi if u went rwd, u would have a crazy amount of room
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Dude, put a an EJ257 in it.
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What a waste of bandwidth.
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What a waste of bandwidth.
You should put the V6tt motor in your truck.
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Put a 350 in it. That's the motor all rednecks swap into everything.
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