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Old 09-24-2009   #21
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Re: Hawver Intake Manifold

I think it looks pretty good, almost 'stockish' looking.
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Old 09-24-2009   #22
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Re: Hawver Intake Manifold

Hmm, if my Magnus ever cracks I'll have to look into one of these.
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Old 09-25-2009   #23
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Re: Hawver Intake Manifold

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I think I would be willing to sacrifice 5-10lbs just for the durability.
Unless your shooting a ton of N20 you don't have to worry about JMF intakes.

The best way to go faster is to lighten the load.
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Old 09-25-2009   #24
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Stronger but also heavier than a SMIM.
I don't see this as being anything worthwhile to think about as even the stock intake feels like it weights next to nothing IMO. I'd go with the Hawver, a better intake is worth a couple extra pounds. But you can feel the acceleration difference when you take out your floormats I'm sure....

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The best way to go faster is to lighten the load.
Get rid of your turbo cause look at how much weight that adds.

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Old 09-25-2009   #25
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Re: Hawver Intake Manifold

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I'd go with the Hawver, a better intake is worth a couple extra pounds. But you can feel the acceleration difference when you take out your floormats I'm sure....



Get rid of your turbo cause look at how much weight that adds.
Don't be a dumb ass, you sound like a little bitch with statements like that. That intake probably makes no more power than my JMF and my JMF is lighter.

every pound counts when you want to go fast


If it didn't super cars wouldn't have exotic light wieght metals used in thier construction. Racecars wouldn't have carbon fiber and aluminum seats or plastic windows.

Removing wieght is the #1 way to make your car faster, handle better, and stop quicker.

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Don't be a dumb ass, you sound like a little bitch with statements like that.
You're the one who sounds like the little whiney bitch. Big fucking deal it's probably 5 lbs heavier. How about you give your self a break and go fuck your JMF intake for a change, you sound in love with it.

Not to mention I'm sure your JMF intake is a lot more expensive than this cast mani...
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Old 09-25-2009   #27
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Re: Hawver Intake Manifold

Nope, this one is $550, the JMF is $590. JMF is 7.5 lbs, this one probably isn't much over 10.

Anyway, I like the cast look, more sleeper than a shiny SMIM, would look good in flat black.
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Old 09-25-2009   #28
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you're the one who sounds like the little whiney bitch. Big fucking deal it's probably 5 lbs heavier. How about you give your self a break and go fuck your jmf intake for a change, you sound in love with it.
+1, you're the one wining about how heavy the intake is. Race barefoot and naked why don't you, it'll save weight (the same amount or more than the difference in intakes).


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Removing wieght is the #1 way to make your car faster, handle better, and stop quicker.
Yeah, and that's why my wife's Escort is so fast & stops so quickly, especially compared to my heavy Eclipse.

If having a light car is so important to you, why start with such a heavy ass car, get a Honduh instead.

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Re: Hawver Intake Manifold

How about you guys stop "fighting" over an intake manifold.
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Old 09-25-2009   #30
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Re: Hawver Intake Manifold

if you shed 5 pounds in a car that runs a flat 13 second 1/4 that weighs 3000 pounds

you should be able to run 12.999792

an improvment of .000208

just throwing that out there, all theoretical of course
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Re: Hawver Intake Manifold

Quite an impressive gain; that is, if they timed it to at least the 4th decimal place.
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That's the difference between running a 13 and a 12 though
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That's the difference between running a 13 and a 12 though
I guess I haven't noticed a track that goes to the 4th decimal place, so probably not.
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Yeah, and that's why my wife's Escort is so fast & stops so quickly, especially compared to my heavy Eclipse.
It's called power to wieght ratio, not wieght ratio

I never said JMF was better. Just added that the cast manifold would be heavier. Then you got butthurt, then I got butthurt

I'm a freak when it comes to lowering the wieght of my cars. A little here and there adds up fast.

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Re: Hawver Intake Manifold

power to weight ratio, really, 5 pounds, you talking a difference of .01 change in ratio. .02 if your only running 300 hp. also assuming 3000 pound car.

i think the added reliability for 5 pounds would be worth it, even more for those running n2o

plus the chances of it getting damaged would be for less for a cast unit
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power to weight ratio, really, 5 pounds, you talking a difference of .01 change in ratio. .02 if your only running 300 hp. also assuming 3000 pound car.

i think the added reliability for 5 pounds would be worth it, even more for those running n2o

plus the chances of it getting damaged would be for less for a cast unit
Like I said, I never said one was better than the other. OP asked for thoughts on the cast mani and I said it was heavier, big deal.

Like I also said earlier, wieght ads up. 5lbs here 10 lbs there. Less work for your engine to accellerate, also less stress on your drivetrain. Less work for your brakes to stop you too.



I am in no way trying to steer anybody away from running a cast mani.




With a direct port setup you'd be less likely to kill an intake plenum with a N2O backfire anyways
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Re: Hawver Intake Manifold

Dsm's never have nitrous back fires.

The thing is kinda ugly and it'd be cool to see a comparison between this and a jmf
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Dsm's never have nitrous back fires.
Especially when they forget to turn the nitrous bottle on for the 1st pull


























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i think shaved and polished it could be a very nice piece
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