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Old 11-05-2006   #1
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We both have signed up to be deployed................. So if you bitch ass liberal want to get something done stop whining and actually try to help this country instead of destoring it.
First off, I have nothing but respect for you and your best friend for enlisting and even volunteering to be deployed. You both are making the world a better place to live.

I consider myself a moderate, neither a liberal nor a conservative. I would however like to understand how you believe that liberals are whining, getting nothing done, and even destroying this country. Yes, they do want change, as do most Americans. Please do not cite John Kerry's comments. No politician or American would support his statements.
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Old 11-06-2006   #2
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There has only been two presidents who had to deal with the probelm of being attacked on our own soil, first FDR WWII but that was pearl harbor and not the heart of america in downtown NYC at our most important building. So if you bitch ass liberal want to get something done stop whining and actually try to help this country instead of destoring it.

Hey, just noticed this post, I believe you are incorrect, sir.

Mexican War
War of 1812
Revolutionary War
Not to mention countless other attacks on American soil by Native Americans and others.

Serve our country well! Use your head.
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Old 11-06-2006   #3
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The Mexican-American War was not fought upon American soil. Texas was not a state, it was annexed while under Mexican rule. It's like saying Iraq is ours, then invading.

We went over there for oil? And I thought it was to import sand for our beaches, since global warming is rising water levels..........

Anyone think it'll be televised?

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Go figure, all the liberal countries who can't get their own shit straight are protesting his hanging. Fuck 'em, let him hang.

And if a couple of you clowns actually think Bush is somehow guilty of premeditated murder like Saddam because soldiers have died in a legitimate war, you obviously haven't gotten out and done anything for your country. There's a damn big difference between ordering thousands of people to be shot in the head and thrown into pits versus sending willing people over and paying them to protect our freedom. Personally, I think we should send over all the whiners and put them on the front lines, and throw John Kerry in front of them wrapped in nothing but an American flag.
Yes! Good idea! Sorry I started this, I know I can't convince you guys.
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Go figure, all the liberal countries who can't get their own shit straight are protesting his hanging. Fuck 'em, let him hang.

And if a couple of you clowns actually think Bush is somehow guilty of premeditated murder like Saddam because soldiers have died in a legitimate war, you obviously haven't gotten out and done anything for your country. There's a damn big difference between ordering thousands of people to be shot in the head and thrown into pits versus sending willing people over and paying them to protect our freedom. Personally, I think we should send over all the whiners and put them on the front lines, and throw John Kerry in front of them wrapped in nothing but an American flag.
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Ill let Steve speak for me
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Re: Death to Saddam

Well then, I'm with Peter: Steve has the floor.
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NO MEMBER BASHING.

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Hey, did I mention;
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Now stop arguing and stay on topic.

By the way, we went over there for oil, got it?
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Hey, did I mention;

By the way, we went over there for oil, got it?
You're kidding, right?
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You're kidding, right?
About the oil, yes. About staying on topic, NO.
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How can you say that he never had WOMD? He used too... where did they go? My guess is over in a neighboring country being kept safe. And we will never know if Al queda never had ties with Iraq or Saddam, how can you be totally positive they didnt have a connection.

Either way, it is good to get a potentially harmful enemy out of power, and that is what we did.
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Why don't we just call up Osama and find out what's going on?
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Why don't we just call up Osama and find out what's going on?
(jokingly) Maybe we can have Tauni get his number. She seems to have the connections.
She did a nice job on finding out info for Jet though .
But back on topic...Anyone know when this hanging is going to take place? Hanging doesnt seem as painfull as being shot, but it lasts a lot longer so I guess that'll do.
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I wonder if they'll place the noose on eBay when it's all said and done?
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Once again, Steve is right on the money.
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I agree with Steve also, but with all the satellite technology we have, we would have seen plenty of it leaving the country. It's hard to truck missles and such without being out in the open.
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Old 11-07-2006   #18
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I agree with Steve also, but with all the satellite technology we have, we would have seen plenty of it leaving the country. It's hard to truck missles and such without being out in the open.
We have essentially the best intelligence in the world. We can read a license plate from 20 miles up, but can't seem to locate stockpiles of weapons that we "know" were there. The American public was fed either lies or assumptions. This administration stated that information about the location of WMDs and a link between Iraq, Al Queda, and the Sept. 11th attacks would be presented. They never were. It troubles me even more when this administration will not release information about Iraq until after the mid-term elections. Saddam posed no real threat to the American people. If I were told that we were going there to overthrow him because he kill thousands or even millions of his own people, then I would be a bit more understanding of the situation. But all I heard was WMDs, 9/11, terrorists........After the fact - Oh yeah, by the way, we ousted an evil dictator and instilled democracy. The truth is, if that were the basis of going over there, he wouldn't have had the American people's support.

The fact of the matter is, Saddam will not be executed. It would just make the entire region even more unstable. This is just merely a ploy to show Americans that there has been success in Iraq. Please, releasing this news just two days before a mid-term election in which the majority party that holds essentially all forms of government is trying to be re-elected is not coincidence. The success of our mission in Iraq should not be based upon the capture, trial, sentencing, and execution of a dictator.
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Re: Death to Saddam

Yeah, i was reading the newspaper and saw and read that he was going to be hanged.. but i still think that even if that happens, us is still gunna be in iraq for a while..
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Re: Death to Saddam

OK im not even gonna read the previous posts, so if this is a repost of what people have already said then oh well.
I am really happy that saddam is finally gonna be gone. It needed to happen.

On the topic of bush....
This douche should have been out of office a LOOOONG time ago. But i dont believe he should be hanged. more like sent off to fight in the "war", That way he can show support for his actions. Even in the days of Kings the king would show up to some if not all of the battles so he could witness the loss or win of the battle. Thats what i call showing support, not just sitting in an office with his hand on the button waiting to send more troops.
The government is all about checks and balences. Bush is as much to blame for this situation we are in as congress. Bush has Veto athority and could have used it to stop us from INVADING (yeah i said it) Iraq.
I remember when he originally made his speech (i was working at the sportsmans guide in so st paul) and said that this effort would be quick with minimal casulties. (also note that Hitler had a name for this type of action, Blitzkrieg) That was around 4 years ago. So how quick is quick. and the death toll is nearing if not passing the war in Vietnam.
Bush needs to stop putting us in the world police situations and start pulling the troops out and letting the governments of other countries run their own damn country, or else he can go join the war.
Does anyone remember when the first caskets from this war came back from Iraq, Bush didnt even have the balls to show up for the ceramony. All of congress and Bush should have all been there for every casket that came back, maybe then we would have pulled out much sooner.
Flame me if you want for fucking with your republican savior, im not saying that things would be different if we had a democrat for president, but instead if we would have just chosen the RIGHT man/woman for the job we wouldnt be in this situation.
People who vote purely republican or democrat are sheep.
thats all.
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