It's a foking DSM afterall! - Page 2

**JET** · 12-30-2008

At least it isn't like the BMW Z3's that rip the bottom of their trunks out and shit their rear end onto the road. They also refuse to do nothing about it and have known about it for years. Like was said, every car has it's issues.

FattyBoomBatty · 12-30-2008

Lawsuits (or possible lawsuits) have not reached critical mass

**scheides** · 12-30-2008

Rewire done, testdrive complete. Sealed it all up, tied up everything nice and high so this won't happen again.

john · 12-31-2008

80k on my insight (now at 170k) and no issues yet

That is one of the things I didn't like much about my past DSMs, they kept nickel and diming me. There was always something that came up to destroy a weekend of fun and put me back in the garage for the weekend fixing the problems.

FattyBoomBatty · 12-31-2008

how much more power than stock does your viper have?

niterydr · 12-31-2008

Yeah that wiring harness thing is lame. If I bought an evo that would be one of the first things I would do would be to seal up that area.

**scheides** · 01-22-2011

Yearly bump! It's the middle of winter and a PITA time to do this, but hey you never know

blackrosenova400 · 01-22-2011

Hey Chris, if you take a look in your pic here you see those blue butt connectors? replace all of the red butt conectors you have with those type of butt connectors.

With those blue butt connectors, you are supposed to take a lighter or apply heat somehow the ends of the butt connector, it will shrink against the wire insulation and keep water/moisture out.

311evo · 01-22-2011

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Originally Posted by blackrosenova400

Hey Chris, if you take a look in your pic here you see those blue butt connectors? replace all of the red butt conectors you have with those type of butt connectors.

Ermmmmm... I think it's a little too late. :/

blackrosenova400 · 01-22-2011

Well for future situations. I see many trucks come in with the red butt connectors, and they get corroded from moisture.

I see these alot too, there worthless

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Originally Posted by 311evo

Ermmmmm... I think it's a little too late. :/

**Goat Blower** · 01-22-2011

I was wondering about that when I first looked at those pics. I hate both of those types of connectors. I only solder and shrinkwrap all wires going back from my car stereo days.

blackrosenova400 · 01-22-2011

Very nice, this is the best possible way!

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower

I was wondering about that when I first looked at those pics. I hate both of those types of connectors. I only solder and shrinkwrap all wires going back from my car stereo days.

311evo · 01-22-2011

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower

I was wondering about that when I first looked at those pics. I hate both of those types of connectors. I only solder and shrinkwrap all wires going back from my car stereo days.

This. Soldering and using the good 3m shrink wrap is key.

**goodhart** · 01-22-2011

IMO the blue butt connectors are a very close second to solder/shrink wrap. The middle is filled with solder so when you hit it with one of those mini-torches/torch lighter it melts the soler, then you seal the ends.

My buddy can get these by the box at the Waste Management repair shop. I think they are like $1 a piece too :O

blackrosenova400 · 01-22-2011

I consider it a second best too, what i didnt know is there is solder in the center of them, sweet!

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Originally Posted by goodhart

IMO the blue butt connectors are a very close second to solder/shrink wrap. The middle is filled with solder so when you hit it with one of those mini-torches/torch lighter it melts the soler, then you seal the ends.

My buddy can get these by the box at the Waste Management repair shop. I think they are like $1 a piece too :O

Kevin 1G Drummer · 01-22-2011

I use those blue ones all the time at work, and have used them a couple times on my personal vehicles. They work pretty badass, and I've never had a problem with a weak connection with them.

**Kracka** · 01-22-2011

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Originally Posted by blackrosenova400

Well for future situations. I see many trucks come in with the red butt connectors, and they get corroded from moisture.

I see these alot too, there worthless

I used plenty of those back when I used to wire in AFC's...never once had an issue with them, just need to do it right. Used them for my turbo-timer and radar detector in my IX too; 3 1/2 years later and still going strong.

**Goat Blower** · 01-23-2011

A lot of it depends on where you buy them too. There's a lot of different ones that look the same, if I do use them, I buy at AEI electronics in Golden Valley. They're expensive, but I trust them more than the Pep Boys sourced one.

I'm going out to do this mod to mine this afternoon since I'm waiting for parts. I'm just trying to think of little things to fix while it's down. I'm sure I'll find a bunch once I drive it.

**scheides** · 01-23-2011

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Originally Posted by blackrosenova400

Hey Chris, if you take a look in your pic here you see those blue butt connectors? replace all of the red butt conectors you have with those type of butt connectors.

With those blue butt connectors, you are supposed to take a lighter or apply heat somehow the ends of the butt connector, it will shrink against the wire insulation and keep water/moisture out.

LOL, remember that I 'fixed' this around this time of year, middle of january. It was cold as FUCK out and I was basically praying that replacing all these connectors would solve the freaking crazy problems I was having: windshield wipers stayed on, tail lights would go out, ignition would stay on, etc etc etc.

Thanks for the advice but I have since junked the car seeing as I rolled it, remember? :P The blue connectors are always way better than the basic red ones (once heat is applied as goodhart stated). They're a happy mix between simple butt connectors and soldering. Soldering where these wires is would be nearly impossible w/o removing the entire dash. Again back to it being cold as fuk out, soldering was not an option. Then as I replaced wire by wire with my trusty blue connectors (I also used these for my mini wire tuck over the top of the engine) I eventually ran out. The task of actually bypassing the harness plugs (what this thread is really about) was actually fixing problems one-by-one so I told my frost-bitten knees (even in a heated garage this is one of those spots, kneeling on the floor, that never will be warm) to fuk off and lets DO this. I told myself I'd replace them if I ever had even a minor problem, but it was never an issue after that, so those connectors may still be in the hunk of metal that used to be my beloved dsm/evo.

TL;DR - fuck it.

DoughtCom · 01-23-2011

I used the same thing Scheides did, but with the heatshrink ends. They worked really well and still are working fine, you need the proper tool for crimping them (pliers don't cut it) and the heat shrink ends do the trick of keeping the moister out.