Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog - Page 23

**mlomker** · 05-07-2010

glws and all that but I'd personally need a smokin' deal to buy a car and do all that work. As a prospective purchaser I'd assume that if you blew the motor that you've beaten the snot out of the rest of the car as well. Would you buy your car if you were in the market and didn't know the seller?

My suspicion is that if you want to unload the car for a good price that you should drop a stock motor in it/part it out/go to stock.

**Murlo26** · 05-07-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

glws and all that but I'd personally need a smokin' deal to buy a car and do all that work. As a prospective purchaser I'd assume that if you blew the motor that you've beaten the snot out of the rest of the car as well. Would you buy your car if you were in the market and didn't know the seller?

Me, probably not, the sale is directed at people who do their own work though. Not someone who is going to pay a shop to put a new motor in.

I fully understand what you are saying, but the amount of money to create this car is way higher than what I am asking. I could see some person asking 30k with a blown motor on this car because they invested so much. Obviously they would never sell the damn thing, but even 30k would be a loss.

If i don't get any bites soon, I will have DB put a stock motor back in and the part out will ensue.

It will take longer but I will be able to drive the car for the time being while I am trying to sell at least and then when I sell everything I will be better off than what I would've been selling it for what I am asking now.

Yes, maybe they could think that I beat on the car, but in reality i don't think i did, not the drivetrain anyway, just stressing the engine from so much power. I only launched the car once since I owned it, lol.

We will see how everything unfolds though. Don't assume I am selling yet.

**Kracka** · 05-07-2010

To be perfectly honest you're going to have to be really lucky to get $21k, if you dropped it to down around $18k I'm sure you could fine one easily enough.

C3L1CA · 05-07-2010

I vote build the x and forget about it. You sound like most girls I know that can't make up their mind.

If you want to go fast and do it cheaply, why not just get a dsm then? Motor are cheap, a ton of parts, etc, etc. Then you could buy a decent daily too with the money you save.

**Murlo26** · 05-07-2010

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I vote build the x and forget about it. You sound like most girls I know that can't make up their mind.

If you want to go fast and do it cheaply, why not just get a dsm then? Motor are cheap, a ton of parts, etc, etc. Then you could buy a decent daily too with the money you save.

I would love a DSM, but as a third car. I love my evo and the 8/9's as well. At this point in my life I want a fast evo.

As of now I need a second car for sure, something reliable and boring.

And sorry i don't think spending every cent to my name that i have now and will make in the next few months on my car, its a big deal to me.

C3L1CA · 05-07-2010

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I would love a DSM, but as a third car. I love my evo and the 8/9's as well. At this point in my life I want a fast evo.

As of now I need a second car for sure, something reliable and boring.

And sorry i don't think spending every cent to my name that i have now and will make in the next few months on my car, its a big deal to me.

I feel ya man, I spent almost all my money on my car last summer. Although it was, it sucked at the same time. If I could I think I would sell my two cars and get an evo as well.

Whatever you decide hope you're happy with it! Good luck!

**Murlo26** · 05-07-2010

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I feel ya man, I spent almost all my money on my car last summer. Although it was, it sucked at the same time. If I could I think I would sell my two cars and get an evo as well.

Whatever you decide hope you're happy with it! Good luck!

Thanks, I will figure it out eventually. I was just planning to fix up my new house that i bought last summer, yard needs a lot of work. Honestly if my yard was in good shape, this wouldn't be a decision, built motor would win.

**Murlo26** · 05-07-2010

A brand new one for 24k? The ralliarts are like 27k...so not sure how they have a brand new X for that.

I am not asking 24k...i am asking 21k.

**Kracka** · 05-07-2010

Lets see a link for this supposed brand new X for $24k.

**LingLing** · 05-07-2010

I fail? I remember going there to grab parts and seeing the tag read $24xxx,. It must've been a Ralliart. My apologies.

**LingLing** · 05-07-2010

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I fail? I remember going there to grab parts and seeing the tag read $24xxx,. It must've been a Ralliart. My apologies.

Hence, my apology.

**Murlo26** · 05-07-2010

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Hence, my apology.

Sorry missed that, wasn't trying to be a jerk, just figured i would check. I would really be screwed if new X's were that much. i would for sure keep it then.

**Murlo26** · 05-07-2010

I just checked Brookdale, the cheapest new X they have is 34560...not exactly 24k.

They also have no used ones.

**scheides** · 05-07-2010

Ya, I test drove a BASE EvoX @ brookdale and they were talking like $32k or so, sticker is $34,500 IIRC.

Anyways, save up, buy long block, install drop-ins, and continue to beat some ass.

**scheides** · 05-07-2010

Also, what's with this $60k comment? That's kinda a half-truth.

**Murlo26** · 05-07-2010

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Also, what's with this $60k comment? That's kinda a half-truth.

Kind of, kind of not...If I keep the car and build the motor, my investment total will be in the 50's, possibly close to 60, i don't even want to add it up at that point.

Speedfreak · 05-07-2010

Like others have suggested, I think to realistically evaluate your options, you should lower the amount you expect to get for the car with a blown motor. If you may only get 16-18k for the car with the blown motor, does that change your mind? If so, cut to the chase and move forward with those possible numbers in mind.

I agree with those in this thread saying the expectations of what could be had for an X with a blown motor are high. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what mods, how you treated it, or how much time/labor is into a car. In the end, it is going to take a new owner time/labor and money to just get it running. With that, it has to be a great deal for someone to get into that situation instead of spending a little more money and buying a perfectly good/running X(or IV for that matter).

Very simply, blown motor car + parts and labor cannot equal or come close to a good running cars value. It has to be a "deal" to someone for this car to sell.

Only making all these statements to help you with your decision.. I think this may change your view of the situation a bit?

**Murlo26** · 05-07-2010

^Well I have been thinking all day about what everyone has said etc etc.

And as I said before I have been swaying back and forth since the motor went....

Since you guys are outside the car, by that I mean you don't have anything invested into and can make a clear decision about it and give me a no BS assessment on what it should be worth I need to listen.

That being said I now have two options in my mind...put a stock motor back in it and put it back to stock and sell it. In that case i think 27ish would be reasonable. However then it will be tough explaining to whoever wants it why it has a new motor in it and no matter what I say they won't believe me. So like you guys say, i will then need to lower it to get what I want out of it. In which case I mind as well of sold it for 16-17k and cut my losses rather then trying to sell it fixed up.

Option 2, suck it up, buy a car to get me by for now (which has to be done for either scenario) and tow that shit to DB/MAP to start pulling the motor and assess the situation.

Still nothing is 100% obviously, but I will say this...

From the very start I told myself if I was going to do any work on it, meaning fixing the motor/building it, i was not going to put it back to a stock block...

So that kind of makes my decision for me i guess.

**mlomker** · 05-07-2010

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Option 2, suck it up, buy a car to get me by for now (which has to be done for either scenario) and tow that shit to DB/MAP to start pulling the motor and assess the situation.

Have you explored alternatives to buying a temporary car? My Dad had two and loaned me one for free. Maybe you know somebody with multiple cars that could rent you one for cheap for a few months?

If you decide to rebuild then you should look for ways to postpone expenses like a 2nd car...at least until Fall.

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Also, what's with this $60k comment? That's kinda a half-truth.

He wouldn't be that into it if he just dropped in another stock motor. If he pulls a Lomker then it's a piece of cake.

**Murlo26** · 05-07-2010

Oh, also, I appreciate your guys' insight, this is a tough time for me and tough to make any decisions flat out about anything but I think i will get there soon.