11-10-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
Fukin right! I put 80k on my 4G63 at 400+whp at db and it was in great shape. As much as this whole situation saddens me, FUCK IT! I want this thing running and it will continue to get abused.
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Lol yea I dont think Scheides would have built his if the stock block didnt fail, which seems to be common around here. haha
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Correct.
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Originally Posted by Halon
Damn that is real light. I'm trying to remember what 6-bolt .020 over Mahle's for DSM's weigh, and I thought they were something like 290grams, and are the lightest off-the-shelf pistons for them as far as I know.
Sounds like a sweet piston 
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http://www.jepistons.com/Catalogs/Sp...ishi/4b11.aspx
My bad, this says 340 grams/piston. I will find out for sure; gonna try and get weight on the stock pistons/rods vs the new pistons/rods for an overall weight difference including the rings, wrist pins and everything.
*edit* with info from the actual p/n's that were ordered.
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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Last edited by scheides; 11-10-2010 at 10:53 AM..
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11-09-2010
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It's deluxe son... deluxe
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Re: beaterX project thread
Wow that's lighter than my Evo's old shift knob! Looking good sonnnnn.
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11-09-2010
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Re: beaterX project thread
I honestly haven't heard of anyone doing a simple .020" overbore yet so I wouldn't know what to say on that. Obviously it will sacrifice some sleeve integrity, but anything worthwhile, who knows.
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11-10-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
Got word back from Greg@GSC last night; their foundry is extra-way-backed-up so a decision has been made! Kelford 214-b's it is!
Holy crap everything is really in motion, I better get all of my secondary parts on the way stat. This thing might just go back together next weekend!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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11-10-2010
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It's deluxe son... deluxe
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Re: beaterX project thread
Just remember to "take your time putting it back together"  Glad everything is working out, can't wait to see it on the road again!
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11-10-2010
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Re: beaterX project thread
Yay for local built X's, lol...funny how we all ended up doing it one way or another...maybe now you guys who gave Lomker crap for building his will realize he wasn't doing it for fun 
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11-10-2010
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Yay for local built X's, lol...funny how we all ended up doing it one way or another...maybe now you guys who gave Lomker crap for building his will realize he wasn't doing it for fun 
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nope. You guys should of just learned how to drive with the stock turbo. 
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11-10-2010
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Re: beaterX project thread
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nope. You guys should of just learned how to drive with the stock turbo. 
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Pfft, no way, upgraded turbo ftw!
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11-10-2010
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Re: beaterX project thread
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You guys should of just learned how to drive with the stock turbo.
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+1. I'd have beer money right now if I had.
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11-10-2010
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Yay for local built X's, lol...funny how we all ended up doing it one way or another...maybe now you guys who gave Lomker crap for building his will realize he wasn't doing it for fun 
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Naa, now I can just give all three of you crap.
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I agree with Kracka.
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Re: beaterX project thread
oooohh! very niiice man. i wanna see this car in action again!
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11-10-2010
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Re: beaterX project thread
Lol yea I dont think Scheides would have built his if the stock block didnt fail, which seems to be common around here. haha
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11-10-2010
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Re: beaterX project thread
Common for people trying to push the 4b11 to power levels the 4g63 seemed to handle alright  I am just saying Lomker flipped the coin and from the looks of it seemed to pick the right path.
I agree, Scheides is all about using as much of the stock components as he can, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Regardless, the new setup should prove very solid!
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11-10-2010
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Re: beaterX project thread
I've got brand new OEM pistons/rods with the rings etc at home if you want to use brand new stuff to get the weight comparison 
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11-10-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
That's ok
Also:
I LOL'd.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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11-10-2010
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Re: beaterX project thread
lol, I never saw jersey shore, but i like the music Jimmy fallon plays when he does his fist pumping, the roots are awesome.
I'm just giving you guys shit, I don't really give a crap either way. But hell now you guys can rock the shit out of some built motors.
I vote one of you guys need to big dog it and break 650ish at DB.
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11-10-2010
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
lol, I never saw jersey shore, but i like the music Jimmy fallon plays when he does his fist pumping, the roots are awesome.
I'm just giving you guys shit, I don't really give a crap either way. But hell now you guys can rock the shit out of some built motors.
I vote one of you guys need to big dog it and break 650ish at DB.
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Give it time. One of us will get bored eventually despite what we all think right now. I am guessing Scheides will be like Lomker and myself after this and be in recovery from spending large sums of money.
however he did save quite a bit by doing a lot himself.
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11-12-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
Local resources, friends, that's what makes stuff come together and keep it on schedule! I ran over to lomker's last night to beg/borrow this extra set of 4b11t headstuds he had after his debacle. Turns out to use a torque plate you need something to bolt it to the block with! Surprise! LOL Fail scheides.
So yea anyways, I ran the headstuds over to MAP last night. The block is done being bored and its finally excited about life again and ready to go have some fun! (get it? bored? I....nevermind.) Actually, it is getting its final hone today and then assembly begins.
Side note, MAP has a 4b12 block, it doesn't look as beefy as the 4b11t. The caps holding down the crank only have 2 bolts (vs 4 on the 4b11t) and the rear main seal is different. They are going to try some parts-swapping from mine and theirs to just see what is possible. Maybe on my next build 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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11-12-2010
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N17r0U$ br4D
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Re: beaterX project thread
Thats awesome to see it progress so quickly! It'll be a fun car for sure when it's all said and done.
Are you going to keep daily driving it with the built motor?
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11-12-2010
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Re: beaterX project thread
Give us a little spec sheet on this beast!!
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