beaterX project thread - Page 30

**scheides** · 11-16-2010

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Originally Posted by ecoli

Usually you want a core that is rated for 50-100% more power than what you actually plan on making at the wheels, if you want it to not be a flow restriction and actually cool worth a crap. I have never had a car in with too big of an intercooler, but see cars with too small every other day.

Solid advice I have always taken to heart!

LOL check page2:
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&s...w=1152&bih=542

Not like I'm going over the top or anything:

turbotalon1g · 11-16-2010

^Word, hence my old car having a core rated to 750whp and me making 450ish at most.

**mlomker** · 11-16-2010

meh. I'll suffer with the Perrin. It's 930, whatever hp that works out to.

**scheides** · 11-16-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

meh. I'll suffer with the Perrin. It's 930, whatever hp that works out to.

One of my top choices, very nice piece!

**Kracka** · 11-16-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

meh. I'll suffer with the Perrin. It's 930, whatever hp that works out to.

Definitely a solid choice, that's what I would have gone with had MAP not offered me this prototype of theirs. It is larger than most other intercooler cores on the market for the X; right behind the Buschur and my MAP prototype (980 c.i.). My favorite part about the Perrin is it is the only FMIC in the market for the X to fully utilize the entire front bumper opening; all others have end-tanks or at least welds exposed.

**mlomker** · 11-16-2010

Forgot to ask--did you have appreciable wear on your six puck disk already? I was a little surprised to hear that you're replacing it.

**Murlo26** · 11-16-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

Forgot to ask--did you have appreciable wear on your six puck disk already? I was a little surprised to hear that you're replacing it.

I think it was its out now and its cheap for a new disc only so mind as well.

**mlomker** · 11-16-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

mind as well.

It seems that is an alternate to might as well but it just looks wrong to me every time you use it.

**scheides** · 11-16-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

Forgot to ask--did you have appreciable wear on your six puck disk already? I was a little surprised to hear that you're replacing it.

Yea, for under $150 and zero extra time input I'm just hoping for another 5k miles on the tail-end of clutch life. The disc I took out looked decent, I'll keep it as a wall momento unless someone wants to give me a few bills for it (seems like people will buy anything!). I'll post some pics when I post a FS ad.

**Murlo26** · 11-16-2010

Bah, you guys and your big IC's, you guys ever gonna use that IC for the big powah?

**Kracka** · 11-16-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Bah, you guys and your big IC's, you guys ever gonna use that IC for the big powah?

Nope, but I will use it for a chilly intake charge during the Texas heat

**Murlo26** · 11-16-2010

Ok, acceptable, good excuse

**scheides** · 11-16-2010

Like shane said, he's never seen too big of an intercooler

So I heard back from DeatschWerks just now. Man these guys are awesome to work with!

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Originally Posted by DeatschWerks

Hey Chris,

Your injectors tested fine. They are getting new orings put on and packaged up to ship back to you today.

Thanks for giving us a chance to look them over.

-Chris

I just wish their 1300's weren't so noisy. I may end up getting them anyways--service like this is really hard to come by. I've had a ton of very positive back/forth with these guys on a set of second-hand injectors. Very impressed.

**Halon** · 11-16-2010

Any close ups of the external fin density/design on that core? While I agree a bigger IC is great, thickness is always a worry of mine on my setups. I won't ever run an extremely thick FMIC if the external fins are so densly packed that it seems that it is going to extremely inhibit flow to the radiator. Hence why I really like ETS cores as they don't focus 100% on intake charge cooling, but focus on street applications where keeping airflow through the core allowing enough air to the radiator is important as well. Garrett cores usually have a pretty dense external fin design from what I've seen.

Although it may not be as much of a concern considering you have an aluminum block now which may dissipate heat a bit better than the iron blocks... I'm just a worry wart when it comes to overheating, I can thank the old 1G for that

**mlomker** · 11-16-2010

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Originally Posted by Halon

allowing enough air to the radiator is important as well.

Sounds like a great excuse for a radiator upgrade! lol. Mishimoto makes two and CBRD has a baller one for the X. I have the cheaper Mishimoto and my car has never budged at the track for temps.

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Originally Posted by scheides

I've had a ton of very positive back/forth with these guys on a set of second-hand injectors. Very impressed.

Bryan@GST rags on DW and in the last day a guy is trying to blame a blown motor on a pre-release set of the 1500s. My personal experience has been good, both with that set you've got and the 1000s. Those IDs didn't tune for shit.

**Halon** · 11-16-2010

I'm talking not so much about the track, but more-so about being stuck in 10mph traffic on 35W on a 95* day with the A/C on.

That is where my DSM struggled when it had a 3.5" Garrett core mounted in front of my A/C condenser and Mishimoto radiator. So just curious if that's ever an issue for any of the X's. I'm sure your aluminum block is a little better at dissipating heat than the old 6-bolt iron 4g63.

**scheides** · 11-16-2010

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Originally Posted by Halon

Any close ups of the external fin density/design on that core?

No close-ups but its a standard garrett core--very dense. The difference between dsms and evos is awesome on this point--Evos have a FMIC from the factory. As such, there are huge extra channels for air to flow to the radiator despite having a huge fmic core. Also the fmic is offset lower than the radiator, I think this helps a bit.

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Originally Posted by mlomker

Sounds like a great excuse for a radiator upgrade! lol. Mishimoto makes two and CBRD has a baller one for the X. I have the cheaper Mishimoto and my car has never budged at the track for temps.

Bryan@GST rags on DW and in the last day a guy is trying to blame a blown motor on a pre-release set of the 1500s. My personal experience has been good, both with that set you've got and the 1000s. Those IDs didn't tune for shit.

No radiator upgrade needed at this point. Maybe if I tracked the thing but for now, meh. Saw the guy on the DW1500's, what a dick. Guys like that need to be thrown off the internet.

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Originally Posted by Halon

I'm talking not so much about the track, but more-so about being stuck in 10mph traffic on 35W on a 95* day with the A/C on.

That is where my DSM struggled when it had a 3.5" Garrett core mounted in front of my A/C condenser and Mishimoto radiator. So just curious if that's ever an issue for any of the X's. I'm sure your aluminum block is a little better at dissipating heat than the old 6-bolt iron 4g63.

Exactly. Same conditions on an evo are never a problem.

turbotalon1g · 11-16-2010

I'm kinda with B-man on this, and the same reason I'd pay the dough for a ETS core.

I've also heard nothing bad about DW and glad to hear about your good experiences with them, I'm kinda sad I missed their opening day when I was down in OK.

So when is the reassembly happening?

I got treed.

**scheides** · 11-16-2010

treed? Hopefully this weekend.

FattyBoomBatty · 11-17-2010

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Originally Posted by scheides

treed?

lmao, you obviously haven't drag raced enough.