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Old 12-12-2010   #761
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The first 20 miles of driving need to be burnout miles. No joke, it's the only way to break in engines properly.
Heh, no WOT b/c of the MAF issues but I certainly gave it a bit of boost and rpm
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Old 12-14-2010   #762
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scheides, did you replace your main bearings or main studs or are they stock? I'm not sure if that has to be done when you unbolt the mains.
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Old 12-14-2010   #763
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The first 20 miles of driving need to be burnout miles. No joke, it's the only way to break in engines properly.
That's been argued many times, the whole "proper way to break in an engine" thing. I know some super knowledgable people that will say one way and one will say the other, I don't think there's currently a 100% proven method as compared to the other.
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Old 12-14-2010   #765
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scheides, did you replace your main bearings or main studs or are they stock? I'm not sure if that has to be done when you unbolt the mains.
Bearings are ACL Race, not sure if the main studs were replaced or not, I'd have to ask MAP. Rod bolts are L19's though

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For the first 500 miles we suggest driving at varying engine speeds. Do not get on the highway and set the cruise control for an hour straight. The key to seating the rings is a variety of partial throttle and short bursts of acceleration. After accelerating let off the throttle while still in gear, letting the engine slow the car down. Don’t baby the car but don’t beat the hell out of the car either. A good variety of driving conditions is the best for engine break-in.
Thx for the link! I've read just about every one of the big dsm/evo shops break-in instructions (including these) and I think AMS is spot-on here and its about what I've done. Partial throttle pulls are fine since the existing tune is mostly fine, and its rare that I cruise on the freeway for more than a few miles anyways.

Got about 60 miles on it now, no leaks yet and it drives/idles great! I can't wait to start tuning this thing These cams are awesome, the car will idle just fine at 900rpm and roll down my alley in first gear at 1000rpm no problem.
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Old 12-15-2010   #766
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LMK when its getting tuned! i'm laid off for the winter so i might just have to roll up there in my winter beater. Maybe we can throw her on the dyno for shits, and gigs
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That's been argued many times, the whole "proper way to break in an engine" thing. I know some super knowledgable people that will say one way and one will say the other, I don't think there's currently a 100% proven method as compared to the other.
I like the hard break in method. It's been out standing in its field since then. No problems or oil burning or anything.
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Old 12-15-2010   #768
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LMK when its getting tuned! i'm laid off for the winter so i might just have to roll up there in my winter beater. Maybe we can throw her on the dyno for shits, and gigs
You would drive 2 hrs to watch a dyno?
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You would drive 2 hrs to watch a dyno?
I honestly have nothing better to do. im so fucking bored not being able to work i gotta fuckin get out of the house.
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^Shit, I would of had you clear my drive way and then you could of dismantled my DSM for fun!.

Do you have dyno time scheduled?
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Not yet, prolly sometime in January. Break-in miles and a little street tuning first. Shane's out of town and then I'm out of town over the holidays.
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^Shit, I would of had you clear my drive way and then you could of dismantled my DSM for fun!.

Do you have dyno time scheduled?
LMK next time you need some help!
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Old 12-21-2010   #773
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320 miles on the odometer and I am grinning from ear to ear! No leaks so far, but my fingers are still crossed. The car has jumped right back into DD duty which has served well for doing vacuum pulls, some traffic w/ plenty of stopping/starting to break-in the clutch, and getting miles on the thing.

Off-boost the car feels SO much better than it ever did before, even on the stock turbo. When I first started driving it, anything over about 5psi under 3000rpm would cause the car to buck and backfire; I ended up pulling out some mivec on the intake cam and that seems to be all but gone. These Kelford 214-b's are some of the bigger cams you can get for the X but man they sure idle nice! I can leave the car in 1st gear and idle down my alley w/o any jerking and only sometimes will the car get into a small dance around 900rpm and lop lop lop.

I have boosted to a peak of around 16psi so far and then peddled the throttle to keep it from going higher. The car feels like an animal and just wants to rev rev rev! Even at part throttle 6500rpm comes up in no time in 2nd and 3rd gear.

These miles have been my first experience with this car in the snow. We got like 17" last weekend and another 5" last night and I have to say I am *insanely* impressed with how stable this thing is. The combination of the S-AYC and a little more weight is just seriously impressive when driving at the limit. Any heartbeat/instant that I got that deep 'oh fuk' feeling that I got as I careened towards that ditch in my evo8 last spring is immediately followed by pure confidence as the car doesn't want to over-rotate or understeer at all--it seems to know whats right and stay on the trajectory I will it to be on--even if its sliding sideways at 30mph and facing a curb!

I'll put a few more miles on it this week, then the car will be at MAP for a few days while I'm out of town next week--they want to build a heat shield for the rear CAS (to go with their tubular manifold) and maybe try out a few other things.

When I get back I'll do an oil change, compression test, and I'm thinking about pulling the valvecover to double-check the clearances on the valve tappets. There is a slight tick when the car is cold and I want to make sure everything is perfect--then a few more miles and it'll be time for some boost!

Having my car back and being able to drive it is the best xmas present ever.

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Old 12-21-2010   #774
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Glad to hear break in is going well!
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Awesome news Scheides, I am happy its all working out...best feeling ever when stuff starts to come together!
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Old 12-21-2010   #776
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I like the stock wheels back on it, looks good! Looks unScheidesish though
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Old 12-21-2010   #778
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Looking good!

I got a ride last night to "quick" get pizza... and it is very impressive in its snow abilities. I love how the IX is in snow... but this is a step above even. Makes me a little jealous!
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I like the stock wheels back on it
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