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Old 05-07-2012   #1
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Re: beaterX project thread

Good idea on the air filter heat shield. Let me know if it works out. I need to do something similar, as I had the same kind of AFR situation from dyno to street a while back on the silver car.
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Old 05-07-2012   #2
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Nice numbers! Car was looking good on Saturday too!
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Great numbers for a killer street setup, and still kick some ass at the track. Must be a blast to drive.
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Old 05-09-2012   #4
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Good idea on the air filter heat shield. Let me know if it works out. I need to do something similar, as I had the same kind of AFR situation from dyno to street a while back on the silver car.
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Great numbers for a killer street setup, and still kick some ass at the track. Must be a blast to drive.
Thanks guys!

Got the shield in tonight, $30 shipped from summit via ebay, hell yea! I tried a few different clamping techniques but ended up clamping it under the clamp for the air filter itself....the lip to clamp it down onto is really NOT very wide so I HOPE it doesn't rattle off...we'll see tomorrow I guess!

Fits nicely but not perfectly around the 3.5" inlet filter:


Blocks air from a/c fan as well as snorkel:


But still lets the snorkel dump fresh air into the engine bay, I like that!



Fingers crossed, seems to fit nicely!
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Re: beaterX project thread

Not a bad garage-rigged solution! You could probably cut it down a bit to allow some of the fresh snorkel air to the filter, but while still blocking the A/C fan air.
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Not a bad garage-rigged solution! You could probably cut it down a bit to allow some of the fresh snorkel air to the filter, but while still blocking the A/C fan air.
That's the thing, the issue I'm seeing now is that air from the snorkel itself is affecting my AFRs on the street. The faster the car is going, the more turbulence is hitting the MAF, and unfortunately its causing my AFRs to go lean

The way I figure, this shield will block that direct blast of air but still let the snorkel's fresh air still fill all the area around the filter.
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Not a bad solution, I need to cover my filters as well, link?
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wow, those numbers are hella killer! haha. looks good with all that bling lol
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Look good for how a nice ebay find! Are you going to get it PC'd to match?
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Well, initial test is a success! AFRs are right where I want them...no shield over the snorkel I was in the high 12's. This is crazy.




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Not a bad solution, I need to cover my filters as well, link?
I think there's a link up a few posts, but I happen to have the tab open still. They make a few different sizes, this is the one I got (Spectre 8130 Air Filter Heat Shield):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370609679924

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Yea, I just want to make sure the way I have it mounted is a good long-term solution. Both UICP and shield will be visiting PowderKeg here shortly! I almost want to re-do my intake too so it all matches nicely, but that may not be possible due to timeline.
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Awesome proof that the stock snorkel is actually effective!
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Yea, I think if the sensor was back further in the pipe this would be less of a problem, but then it'd probably buck when the BOV went off, so who knows.

I'm happy for now, maybe I'll just take a sharpee to the pipes to get them black and call it a day?
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Looking good!

Wow, 36psi on the streets, must be ripping DO a VD run now, just curious...
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Looking good!

Wow, 36psi on the streets, must be ripping DO a VD run now, just curious...
I need to run a tank or two of pump gas through it first, car is down a bit on power. Torque is in good shape though
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DO a VD run now, just curious...
REAL dyno charts aren't good enough for ya?
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Nope

One thing I have learned, regardless of dyno, the car will always run different on the street. At least mine does.

He is running a few lbs more of boost on the street compared to where he was on Shane's dyno.

I don't care for numbers much anymore, more so comparison. So same cars same dyno, same car same dyno/street I was just curious how his car runs on the street at this level and tuned compared to before when he was hitting 640ish on VD.

Comparisons I enjoy, not so much bigger/smaller numbers is all I am saying.
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Isn't this just more air needing more fuel? Are u out of fuel?
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His fueling issues are speed-based, not RPM based.
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His fueling issues are speed-based, not RPM based.
ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. That's weird.
How good/what whp are the stock MAFs good for?
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Depends how large of a pipe you have it in. Once you max out the MAF (5.0v) in the stock 2.75" MAF-housing you can step up to a 3 or 3.5". The downside of doing that is less resolution meaning idle and low-speed drivability can suffer. My car is pretty much at the limit for the stock housing, I max it out during long 5th gear pulls into the higher RPM's.
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