10-30-2013
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#101
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Pewp Champion
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
What are you skeptical of? They are an OEM turbo manufacturer, and their products/processes reflect this. So if quality/reliability and turbos that are easily serviced/rebuild-able, then come on in. No 1 brand is some magical gods gift to turbos. All depends what you are looking for. I will take a small HP hit if it means the turbo will last, which is why I continue to choose these.
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10-30-2013
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#102
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
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Originally Posted by Halon
What are you skeptical of? They are an OEM turbo manufacturer, and their products/processes reflect this. So if quality/reliability and turbos that are easily serviced/rebuild-able, then come on in. No 1 brand is some magical gods gift to turbos. All depends what you are looking for. I will take a small HP hit if it means the turbo will last, which is why I continue to choose these.
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It wasn't the reliability aspect at all. Hell, most of us evo noobs run OEM hogged out turbos that last 10k miles regardless of who makes them because they weren't designed to push that power in that housing etc. Ok, maybe not that grim, but yea reliability wasn't the issue I was worried about.
I was more curious on the hype of the EFR turbos. They pretty much made them sound like the best thing since sliced bread as they were completely designed from the ground up for maximum response. The more info I see on them the more I am excited to try it. I don't necessarily think they are that much better than other great turbos, but I think they will be far more reliable (precision and FP both seem to be problematic) and they do appear to be quite a bit more responsive with intergrated bov's and 3 ports and going t4 ts.
I liked my 6266 setup but it was lag city, it felt worse than it looked on paper I guess, trying to find a happy medium now.
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10-30-2013
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#103
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Linwood, MN
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
Buy FP 3786. I'll sell it to ya for a smoking deal!
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10-30-2013
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#104
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
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Originally Posted by CornFed2.4
Buy FP 3786. I'll sell it to ya for a smoking deal!
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Hey, this is a BW thread, get that FP stuff outta here!
And nah, too laggy
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10-30-2013
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#105
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Linwood, MN
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
Just checking carry on.
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11-04-2013
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#106
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
Couple comparison pics of a PTE and BW turbo of similar "size" (62/63mm), but you can see the physical size is quite different.
On the left is a BW 88-75 (S363) .88AR open T4 exhaust housing.
On the right is a PTE 6266 .81AR open T4 exhaust housing.
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11-04-2013
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#107
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
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Posts: 7,150
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
Must be Kerry's turbos
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11-04-2013
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#108
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
Lol yep. That's crazy
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11-07-2013
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#109
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
Here is a stock motor evo x on e85 on the EFR 7670 I am looking at (.92A/R):
Very promising looking graph, its at 27psi falling to 25psi, so pretty mild tune.
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11-14-2013
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#110
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
Wow, evo x 2.2L on the EFR 9180, still stock head I think, so he thinks with that and better ignition should be knocking on 1000whp.
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11-14-2013
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#111
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
Dat head!!
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01-07-2014
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#112
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
Another X just posted this on the stock 2.0L.
If my bonus this year is like last year, I will be running the full race t4 Twinscroll 7670 like this guy. 540whp on a stock motor and still heading up with more to go. I think this is looking like stock turbo with 600whp for me...yum.
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01-07-2014
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#113
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
Nice, i got offered a S366, but it was just rebuilt so that scares me. (I was offered a trade for my turbo)
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01-07-2014
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#114
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mankato
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
Spools hard jeebus
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01-08-2014
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#115
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
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Originally Posted by evotuner
Spools hard jeebus
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Indeed, that is what I am looking for on my next setup, no more lags.
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01-08-2014
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#116
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2stepadepaaadepaaadep
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: bloomington, Mn
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
390 ftlbs of tq thats it? interesting. top end yo..
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I put more into my car then what its worth, did it for my own enjoyment and that was all.
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^^thats what modding is about.. your own enjoyment
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01-08-2014
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#117
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
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Originally Posted by 19TsiAwd90
390 ftlbs of tq thats it? interesting. top end yo..
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stock 4b11 motor yo!
I plan to push close to 600wtq on my new setup. Hoping for a magical 600whp/600wtq at 32-34 psi with peak torque near 4000 rpms.
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01-08-2014
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#118
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
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01-08-2014
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#119
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
I like singing though..you all know that.
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01-08-2014
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#120
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
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Re: Borg Warner Turbos
Quote:
Originally Posted by 19TsiAwd90
390 ftlbs of tq thats it? interesting. top end yo..
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It's a X. stock turbo = 390 tq. fp black = 390 tq. LOL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scheides
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