12-02-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
Think this alone could be causing oil consumption though? I don't want to go through the massive PITA of swapping out tappets to only fix part of the problem.
Plus, I am not confident in what tappets I ended up leaving in the car so the tappet swap could turn into a huge nightmare. There's *47* different tappet sizes.

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12-02-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
Not cool. I'm clueless on this subject so all I can do is wish you luck and hope for the best.
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12-02-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
Yikes.
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12-03-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
I kinda doubt that tight valve clearances would result in oil consumption, the only thing that could really do is make it so the valve doesn't seat with 100% pressure. Hhow much oil is it burning? Enough to smoke all the time? Only on startup?
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12-03-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
Joe nailed the reason, compressed valve seats probably. That shouldn't cause any issues with oil consumption though. It could allow some combustion pressure to leak back in to the intake or exhaust, but since your power isn't down it does not sound like that is happening.
For the oil it could be valve seals or rings. After your incident I would think rings/cylinder wall would be the most likely but it could be many different things.
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12-03-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
The car is down slightly on power so I'm on board with the compressed valve seat theory;
Love second third fourth opinions though keep them coming please!
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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12-03-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
Time for a leakdown test?
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12-03-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
I would do a leakdown test. It won't tell everything, but might help you decide if you are going to pull the head. If the valve seats are compressed, then you might also have worn valve guides, which can cause more oil usage or even cause one of the valve guide seals to get knocked out of place.
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12-03-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
I agree with Shane on the leakdown test. At least it gives you something concrete to analyze, I know in our professional lives we have a common consensus that data is king and no smart/intelligent decision can be made without it!
I’m speculating the sparkplug failure event could have messed up a cylinder wall a little, that would be worse case??
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12-16-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
Well the weather outside is frightful, leakdown/compression numbers are trightful, let it go let it go let it go
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3- 20% no leak at all*
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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12-16-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
Those numbers sadden me
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12-16-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
 still seemed to make good power for that kind of results if you want to look at the positives
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12-16-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Those numbers sadden me
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 still seemed to make good power for that kind of results if you want to look at the positives
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hell yea! Plus it's 'just' the head. Making plans now for when to get it yanked off, fixed, and re-installed.
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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12-16-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
It's a dsm, let r buck 
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12-16-2012
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Reynolds number user
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Re: beaterX project thread
mighty putty??
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12-16-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
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It's a dsm, let r buck 
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Heh! Problem is the car just sounds like shit. It sounds like a diesel until its fully warmed up and oil hot and even then it's not right.
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mighty putty??
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Yes but where to put it, the coolant or the oil? 
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...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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12-17-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
Low compression = Moar boost = No more problem 
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12-17-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
Ouch...
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12-17-2012
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Who has my man-card?
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Re: beaterX project thread
Sucky dude
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12-17-2012
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Re: beaterX project thread
2jz swap. Found you a whole engine for under 1k !
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