10-17-2007
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#121
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 20
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Re: Where's Jake?
Thanks Winona locals for helping us out.
And since I know your going to read this Jake, do you not think that people won't travel over a thousand miles to look you up? It's not going to be pretty for you. I mean we do have you, your parent's, your girl friend's, and your shops address.
Get this stuff handled before this goes to the next level.
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10-18-2007
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#122
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 20
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Re: Where's Jake?
the last post that I wrote did what it was intended to do. It brought Jake out of his hole and he wrote a half a page e-mail that said that he's strapped and is ready for anybody to come up there lol. He wants me to still send my head because thats what we agreed on three months ago before he started pulling this crap. I told him that I'm not sending it and that there is no reason for him to not send me my short block since it's already paid for.
He also said that he spoke with the sheriff that we talked to and said that since he is a mechanic that it would have to go to small claims court.
Jake, since I know 100% for sure your watching this post be a man and post a reply telling every body your side of story and face up to your responsibilities and get this stuff worked out.
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10-18-2007
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#123
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flips McGee
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Re: Where's Jake?
Jake, c'mon man, strapped and ready for anybody? This is not freaking Die Hard, and you are not freaking QPR. Please just come out from hiding, fill us in on what is going on with you, and stop this nonsense. We all want to see you around again, see your car at the track, dyno, or street, and move on from this nonsense. We all make mistakes and we all have been forgiven, I think if you just come clean people should at the very least pay you some respect and give you the opportunity to make things right.
It's not like you $1,000,000 in debt to a limb-removing loan shark or something man, these are freaking DSMs. Seriously, get the hell back on here, and lets end the sillyness.
And no more talk about guns please, that is freaking ridiculous.
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10-18-2007
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#124
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At-Least-It's-White-Again
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Re: Where's Jake?
Does Jake build 2JZ's? I want him to build mine.
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10-18-2007
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#125
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: FargO
Drives: the girls crazy
Posts: 3,012
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Re: Where's Jake?
What's Jakes email?
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10-18-2007
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#126
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Re: Where's Jake?
Its Jake@vogelperformance.com ...
Strapped... Ha, nice wording. When you have people threatening to come beat your ass, I made it clear I have a CWP. Thats all I said.
I've been around, talked to Eric today and have no intensions of shipping anyones things until they are completed and paid for. Thats how I do business. DONE. If you dont like that, fuck off.
I felt as if I wasnt wanted here so why should I be posting this? I am finishing Erics car, Brian's motor is done and has been for a while, just waiting on final payment, so is JT's, just waiting on the head.
Mike (awd spyder guy), I've never sold you a magnus or ever had one in my life.
Kyle, I didnt know the turbo wasnt authentic, you looked at the damn thing before you gave me money.
I dont want to be part of a forum if I'm not wanted, its internet, I dont need it to survive, nor do I need forums. I am doing just fine without them.
I really dont have anything else to say. I'm not needed here so I'm done with the forum, you can delete my account, if you have anything to say, comment, you can contact me at my email account. I might reply.
Wanna come kick my ass or send me letters as well...
Jake Vogel
851 East 12th #201
Winona, MN 55987
Vogel Performance
6245A West 5th
Winona, MN 55987
Thanks and have a nice day.
Love,
Jake
ps. Glad to see I'm getting so much attention on the forums.
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10-18-2007
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#127
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Tournaments Won: 3
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Drives: Lancer and Durango
Posts: 7,017
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Re: Where's Jake?
pussy.
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10-18-2007
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#128
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Is funding Exxon.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ham Lake
Drives: like a bat outta hell!
Posts: 7,983
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Re: Where's Jake?
Quote:
Originally Posted by EclipseGST
I dont want to be part of a forum if I'm not wanted, its internet, I dont need it to survive, nor do I need forums. I am doing just fine without them.
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Sounds like it.
I love the comment about that is how business is done, you don't have a clue how business *should* be done.
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10-18-2007
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#129
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Tournaments Won: 3
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Drives: Lancer and Durango
Posts: 7,017
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Re: Where's Jake?
Quote:
Originally Posted by JET
Sounds like it.
I love the comment about that is how business is done, you don't have a clue how business *should* be done.
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QFT, What is his return policy... "After i get your parts done or not done pay me my money bitch". Great business ethics.
I have had a couple DSMs that i have worked on that i have just wanted to give up, but you didnt see me dodging the customer. Nah i muscled through it. The way you do business is not the way to gain peoples confidence.
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10-18-2007
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#130
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flips McGee
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Re: Where's Jake?
There, was that so hard? I say you do need forums, they are the community you are working for, and how you met your customers.
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10-18-2007
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#131
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: FargO
Drives: the girls crazy
Posts: 3,012
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Re: Where's Jake?
Hey I vote we dont go bash jake because of what he posted. He finally complied with what we asked. Yea obviously he doesn't have the best business plan set out, but we can only learn from what happend. I'm going to continue to try and contact him personally about my issue via his email address. It seems like hes contacted a few people so I might as well try that way as well. But I just dont see the point in bashing him now.
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10-18-2007
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#132
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: cali
Posts: 19
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Re: Where's Jake?
the reason why we are bashing him is because he pulled this shit 2 years ago with martin, and he was banned from that forum too... i think he MUST have a learning disability, because no matter what happens, he doesnt learn from the past, nor does he seem to think that any of us wont force a resolution upon him... hes going to get a very, very rude awakening soon, unless he has a change of heart very soon...
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10-19-2007
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#133
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 20
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Re: Where's Jake?
I knew that last post of mine would make him slither out of his hole.
Now some of you local guys see what we have been dealing with for months now.
This is proof of what happens when you deal with immature people like Jake.
Something happens to where they get behind on their work and they think that if they just put it off that the problem will go away.
Jake- Why won't you answer my question of why you won't just send my short block, so you can do less work for the same amount of money?
Who in their right mind would send their $1500 head to you now after all this screwing around!
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10-19-2007
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#134
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 20
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Re: Where's Jake?
Here is the latest e-mail from Jake.
"You guys can come, I figured you would visit, but just so you know, since I do know you are coming, until I get the head, the motor and timing parts will be somewhere that only I know about, same place brians motor is right now, I moved it when I found out that Eric was suppose to pick it up. You can come to my shop, do whatever you want. If you and brian want to be difficult, thats fine, I can play the game too. Remember who waited for who first. I have no problem waiting again since its paid in full already. So I guess I'll be seeing you soon. Bring the head, then I can install it on the block with the timing parts and ship it to you when its done. Your post didnt get my attention, just figured I'd email you with my address so you can come visit/send the letter.
Thanks
Jake Vogel
Jake@vogelperformance.com
507-313-1024"
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10-19-2007
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#135
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: edward lake
Drives: toaster
Posts: 6,431
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Re: Where's Jake?
that is now theft sence it is moved out of the shop and in hiding now you can get the cops to do something sence you have email proff
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10-19-2007
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#136
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flips McGee
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Re: Where's Jake?
Wow, that is unreal man, I don't get the whole holier-than-thou attitude. Whatever.
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10-19-2007
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#137
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Area code 166 represent
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Crystal, MN
Posts: 10,329
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Re: Where's Jake?
By Jake refusing to give back any parts or cars that is proven to be paid in full is actually theft on the individual property, as long as ownership can be proven if it goes to court. It's getting to the point where someone with a good lawyer could really make for some troubled times.
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10-19-2007
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#138
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Tournaments Won: 3
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Drives: Lancer and Durango
Posts: 7,017
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Re: Where's Jake?
I would have gone mafia style on his has and walked up with a camshaft ready to be inserted...
When the guy (revivedracing.com) screwed me out of my parts (magnus smim and other stuff) i drove over to his house with 3 other guys banging on his door and calling his girl. Well finally she picked up and made the mistake of telling me that he was in fact home and she was talking to him on the other line. I told her to tell him to come outside. Once he walked out and saw who i was with, i made him give me all the money he had on him. (which was around 400) and told him to give me the rest (another 600) by tonight or we are coming back. Well of course he didnt show so i went back with the same guys the next night and he had moved to Texas, bastard.
I hate fuckheads like Jake and thou who shall not be named, where instead of dealing with their problems they crawl inside a hole and hide like a little bitch.
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10-19-2007
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#139
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wants to be sideways...
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Winona Minnesota
Drives: Loud cars
Posts: 2,764
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Re: Where's Jake?
Is he being serious? Why would anyone in their right mind send "Vogel Performance" more parts after not contacting anybody for 2-3 months?
Seems like it's turning into some kind of game to me.
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10-19-2007
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#140
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Is funding Exxon.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ham Lake
Drives: like a bat outta hell!
Posts: 7,983
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Re: Where's Jake?
Looks like it is time to send that email to the Sheriff and see what they think about it!
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My motorcycle is stock and reliable, my Talon is neither!
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