Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog - Page 76

Rmondoh · 05-12-2011

Move to TX. Take your car to Cobb to fix it. Enjoy your Evo X all year round. Win for everyone!

**Kracka** · 05-12-2011

^He missed out on the cruise, we had a lot of great presents for him

**mlomker** · 05-12-2011

Scheides had MAP assemble his short block. From what I've seen in my brief time in this hobby, it's best to have that done by an experienced machine shop. I base that comment on national threads and not just local people.

If DB doesn't want to grow their business by adding techs then that's their business decision. That will sometimes result in customers taking business to another shop with more capacity. That's all it is, no need to read more into it. I take my small jobs to RS because they are convenient to me and have more staff.

311evo · 05-12-2011

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Please don't think I'm blaming the failure on DB, I am not. All I am saying is Murlo gave DB the opportunity to take care of his engine and if they're unable to then I see no reason why they'd be upset no matter where he decided to go to accommodate his timetable.

I'm just trying to look at the situation as a neutral outside party.

I concur, I misunderstood the first time I read it.

**Murlo26** · 05-12-2011

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Originally Posted by Kracka

DB built you a motor, it failed, they can't promise you a timeframe to get another one done, so what right would they have to be pissed no matter who you chose to build your next engine...their rival or not?

I don't know...all I know is that lets say for instance my "awesome" luck continues and more motor problems occur and I get the "finger pointing" scenario because two shops are rivals then what? I get screwed.

I don't think DB is mad at me I haven't done anything wrong, I just think having two rival shops work on my car at the same time invites problems but hey i could be wrong.

**Halon** · 05-12-2011

Sell it.

**Murlo26** · 05-12-2011

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Originally Posted by Halon

Sell it.

Best idea ever.

**scheides** · 05-12-2011

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Originally Posted by Halon

Sell it.

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Best idea ever.

Don't be silly. I say use all resources (local and national) necessary to get it back on the road asap. That's what I did, but I assembled it all in my garage.

IMHO? Talk to MAP about building you a 4b12 motor (read: no core required). Have DB rebuild the motor that's already in there and then sell it once its complete. Whoever has time to assemble/install said engine once it is completed, have them do it. If it's DB, maybe they'll help you out, maybe not. If it's MAP maybe they'll give you a deal, maybe not.

You're right, you're in a pickle. You gotta do whatever you can to keep moving forward, I learned that hard when my motor went. It wasn't easy, but I had to move every piece through whoever could help me get it done quickest.

I have a love/hate relationship with this time of year for this reason. Second option? Sell the honda and buy a different honda (S2000!) and enjoy it for the summer. I found that having my evo down was a lot easier with the fact that I had the GLI (turbo, sporty) to drive every day.

Just my $.02. Use the community you have around you

**cmspaz** · 05-12-2011

Dave, you're reading into this way too much.

Yes, drama exists. Deal with it if and when it ever comes up. Your current plan is to throw money away because you don't want to cause problems? Who cares. That's between the two shops and has zero bearing (heh, bearing) on what you need to do to quickly get your car on the road as cheaply as possibly (i.e. not shipping it to Chicago).

Long story short, just do what you need to do. Nobody's going to turn themselves into Luther Mitsu on you over a fucking motor.

**Murlo26** · 05-12-2011

Hmmm, yea still no idea what to do. All I know is modding is spensive.

311evo · 05-12-2011

Put a turbine engine in the back seat/out the trunk and call it a day.

**mlomker** · 05-12-2011

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

All I know is modding is spensive.

**Murlo26** · 05-12-2011

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Originally Posted by cmspaz

Dave, you're reading into this way too much.

Yes, drama exists. Deal with it if and when it ever comes up. Your current plan is to throw money away because you don't want to cause problems? Who cares. That's between the two shops and has zero bearing (heh, bearing) on what you need to do to quickly get your car on the road as cheaply as possibly (i.e. not shipping it to Chicago).

Long story short, just do what you need to do. Nobody's going to turn themselves into Luther Mitsu on you over a fucking motor.

Maybe you are right, maybe I am just caring too much about little stuff. It's not like taking the shortblock to AMS/ERL/MAP is affecting how much I give DB for money in the end. I was very clear with DB its not an issue of quality but simple time frame.

I have some thinking to do...but for now some drinking instead.

Drink don't think I say!

**Kracka** · 05-12-2011

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Drink don't think I say!

I love it!

(also practicing it)

**asshanson** · 05-13-2011

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Maybe you are right, maybe I am just caring too much about little stuff. It's not like taking the shortblock to AMS/ERL/MAP is affecting how much I give DB for money in the end. I was very clear with DB its not an issue of quality but simple time frame.

Bingo. I guess I don't see what the big deal is if DB can't meet your time frame. If you're sending it to someone else anyway, it might as well be someone local and MAP seems to be the logical choice.

**Murlo26** · 05-16-2011

Heard from Danny today, the shortblock is almost fully torn down. Sounds like just the sensors and little stuff are left and he said he was going to try and get to that tomorrow. So it sounds like this week he is crating up the shortblock and shipping it to ERL for sleeving and building.

It will be getting a 90mm bore to a 2.2L motor. Then I will be getting hotdogs crank shipped to them for micropolishing, all new bearings align hone etc and assembly. I decided that 10.5:1 is a bit too much and is just too out there for me. I'd love to try that high of compression but I don't want to experiment. I will either go for the AMS 9.5:1 pistons that are in stock or if ERL can get custom 10:1 pistons in time I'll try that.

Sounds like 4-6 weeks for the shortblock then back it comes. I did check with Chris on doing it locally but it was a better deal to ship it and ERL does fabulous work from what I've seen.