Dean Dropped Out!

Also, Escherichia Coli (E.Coli); genetic materials; human and bacterial DNA. Dozens of other pathogenic biological agents were shipped to Iraq during the 1980s. The Senate Report pointed out: "These biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction."

"It was later learned," the committee revealed, "that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations inspectors found and removed from the Iraqi biological warfare program."

These exports continued to at least November 28, 1989 despite the fact that Iraq had been reported to be engaging in chemical warfare and possibly biological warfare against Iranians, Kurds, and Shiites since the early 80s.

During the Iraq-Iran war of 1980-88, the United States gave military aid and intelligence information to both sides, hoping that each would inflict severe damage on the other, in line perhaps with what Noam Chomsky has postulated:

It's been a leading, driving doctrine of U.S. foreign policy since the 1940s that the vast and unparalleled energy resources of the Gulf region will be effectively dominated by the United States and its clients, and, crucially, that no independent, indigenous force will be permitted to have a substantial influence on the administration of oil production and price.

Indeed, there is evidence that Washington encouraged Iraq to attack Iran and ignite the war in the first place. This policy, as well as financial considerations, were likely the motivating forces behind providing Iraq with the biological materials. (Iran was at that time regarded as the greater threat to the seemingly always threatened U.S. national security.)

As the American public and media are being prepared to accept and cheerlead the next bombing of the people of Iraq, the stated rationale, the official party line, is that Iraq is an "outlaw" state (or "rogue" state, or "pariah" state -- the media obediently repeats all the White House and State Department buzz words), which is ignoring a United Nations Security Council resolution. Israel, however, has ignored many such resolutions without the U.S. bombing Tel Aviv, imposing sanctions, or even cutting back military aid. But by some arcane ideological alchemy, Israel is not deemed an "outlaw" state by Washington. Neither does the United States regard itself as such for turning its back on a ruling of the U.N.'s World Court in 1984 to cease its hostile military actions against Nicaragua, or for the numerous times the U.S. has totally ignored overwhelming General Assembly resolutions, nor for its repeated use of chemical and biological agents against Cuba since the 1960s.

Originally posted by LightningGSX@Feb 21 2004, 03:26 PM
"According to a Senate Committee Report of 1994 [1]: From 1985, if not earlier, through 1989, a veritable witch's brew of biological materials were exported to Iraq by private American suppliers pursuant to application and licensing by the U.S. Department of Commerce. Amongst these materials, which often produce slow, agonizing deaths, were:

* Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax.
* Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin.
* Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord and heart.
* Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs.
* Clotsridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness.
* Clostridium tetani, highly toxigenic."


But according to you, Iraq has no WMDs? Where did they go?

UN weapons inspectors destroyed them, oh yaeh did you forget?? By the way I thought you said the US didn't give Iraq chemical agents. OOps

[LightningGSX]

No oops, Iraq was free to buy those agents from the US, they were not sold as weapons, they have medical/humanitarian uses too, They were not "given" to Iraq.

Hmm, don't you think that the US should have been like, "umm, yeah I wonder what Saddam is gonna use these for. I'm sure he won't use them to make weapons, so ya lets sell them to him." Fucking rediculous. Wow you are on fire today.

[LightningGSX]

Originally posted by remy@Feb 21 2004, 03:28 PM
Also, Escherichia Coli (E.Coli); genetic materials; human and bacterial DNA. Dozens of other pathogenic biological agents were shipped to Iraq during the 1980s. The Senate Report pointed out: "These biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction."

"It was later learned," the committee revealed, "that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations inspectors found and removed from the Iraqi biological warfare program."

These exports continued to at least November 28, 1989 despite the fact that Iraq had been reported to be engaging in chemical warfare and possibly biological warfare against Iranians, Kurds, and Shiites since the early 80s.

During the Iraq-Iran war of 1980-88, the United States gave military aid and intelligence information to both sides, hoping that each would inflict severe damage on the other, in line perhaps with what Noam Chomsky has postulated:

It's been a leading, driving doctrine of U.S. foreign policy since the 1940s that the vast and unparalleled energy resources of the Gulf region will be effectively dominated by the United States and its clients, and, crucially, that no independent, indigenous force will be permitted to have a substantial influence on the administration of oil production and price.

Indeed, there is evidence that Washington encouraged Iraq to attack Iran and ignite the war in the first place. This policy, as well as financial considerations, were likely the motivating forces behind providing Iraq with the biological materials. (Iran was at that time regarded as the greater threat to the seemingly always threatened U.S. national security.)

As the American public and media are being prepared to accept and cheerlead the next bombing of the people of Iraq, the stated rationale, the official party line, is that Iraq is an "outlaw" state (or "rogue" state, or "pariah" state -- the media obediently repeats all the White House and State Department buzz words), which is ignoring a United Nations Security Council resolution. Israel, however, has ignored many such resolutions without the U.S. bombing Tel Aviv, imposing sanctions, or even cutting back military aid. But by some arcane ideological alchemy, Israel is not deemed an "outlaw" state by Washington. Neither does the United States regard itself as such for turning its back on a ruling of the U.N.'s World Court in 1984 to cease its hostile military actions against Nicaragua, or for the numerous times the U.S. has totally ignored overwhelming General Assembly resolutions, nor for its repeated use of chemical and biological agents against Cuba since the 1960s.

This is speculative BS.I don't remember it that way, I was actually old enough at the time to comprehend it.Instead of reading other peoples opinions on the matter, read a FACTUAL history of the events.

you were fucking 10? ya right you could comprehend it. You were still humping your diapers.

[LightningGSX]

Originally posted by remy@Feb 21 2004, 03:43 PM
Hmm, don't you think that the US should have been like, "umm, yeah I wonder what Saddam is gonna use these for. I'm sure he won't use them to make weapons, so ya lets sell them to him." Fucking rediculous. Wow you are on fire today.

Why would the US give a shit back then? You are still wrong on most of your "points", I thought you were gonna let me argue with myself?

ok I;m done. Don't cry, now you can actually win.

[LightningGSX]

Or should I say other peoples points?

Good one. Peace.

[LightningGSX]

Originally posted by remy@Feb 21 2004, 03:48 PM
you were fucking 10? ya right you could comprehend it. You were still humping your diapers.

Is that all you got?

[npaulseth]

:woowoo:

[SlimStyleDSM]

Haha, Lightning is my hero! :bowdown:

[JDM]

How the fuck do you get from Dean dropping out to arguing about Iraq? Welcome to DSMStyle

[Jana]

That's what I had been wondering the whole time, but the thread was quite entertaining...lol

[A//// Guy]

Well just got back from snowmobiling. Looks like ya'll had a fun time down here. 2 feet of snow is fun. :bounce:

So this thread is dead finally? Probably not hehe. I wont start anything else. Typing hurts after a while.