MitsuStyle MitsuStyle

Go Back   MitsuStyle > Tech > Tuning/Electrical

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-29-2005   #1
TGPilot
 
TGPilot's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 63
Send a message via AIM to TGPilot
"Hacking the MAF??"

Hello all,

Tried to do a search on this page and it came up with nothing.

Is this a practical modification to the MAF? http://www.dsm.org/how-tos/JFM/MAF_Mod.html

It scares me to do it because I do not want to have to replace my MAF after removing the honeycomes...but I do have the K&N as he described without any form of stock aircan.

Is this something that I can do without harm to my car...or will I need to look for a new MAF for the car?

Thanks much in advance!
Kenny
__________________
Showing N/A cars just how slow they are at 6000' above sea-level!

1990 Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo Coupe 222HP / 320ft.lbs @ 3700 RPM
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo STE 222wHP and 280ft/lbs @ 3850 RPM
TGPilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2005   #2
LightningGSX
Hellbound
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: St Paul
Posts: 1,390
Re: "Hacking the MAF??"

Don't do it.Any gains picked up more than likely came from the K&N, and not the MAF mod itself
__________________
-Nulli Secundus-
LightningGSX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2005   #3
1ViciousGSX
Admin
 
1ViciousGSX's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Sportsman's Paradise, LA.
Posts: 5,382
Re: "Hacking the MAF??"

If I remember correctly, the 1g mas doesn't respond as well as the 2g mas to the hacking. Doesn't want to run well. But I could be wrong on this.
__________________

"You don't have a clue. You couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance."

When she get's bitchy, SPANK THAT ASS!
(#Y#)
1ViciousGSX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2005   #4
TGPilot
 
TGPilot's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 63
Send a message via AIM to TGPilot
Re: "Hacking the MAF??"

Well that is two against...anyone else who had a "good" experience with the 1g hack?
__________________
Showing N/A cars just how slow they are at 6000' above sea-level!

1990 Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo Coupe 222HP / 320ft.lbs @ 3700 RPM
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo STE 222wHP and 280ft/lbs @ 3850 RPM
TGPilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2005   #5
LightningGSX
Hellbound
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: St Paul
Posts: 1,390
Re: "Hacking the MAF??"

Seriously, the MAF hack is just that, a hack.Don't be a hack and do hack shit.Save your money if need be, and do things the right way.
__________________
-Nulli Secundus-
LightningGSX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2005   #6
TGPilot
 
TGPilot's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 63
Send a message via AIM to TGPilot
Re: "Hacking the MAF??"

Doing searches on other pages I did like the looks of the GM Maft conversion. Any good vs bad ideas on that? I am in the process of getting this 94 Talon to either be a fun street/strip car...or she is going to be running in the PPHCA out here in Colorado.

Obviously good things have a price-tag...but if I can get the best performance for my dollar that allows for more entry fees!
__________________
Showing N/A cars just how slow they are at 6000' above sea-level!

1990 Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo Coupe 222HP / 320ft.lbs @ 3700 RPM
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo STE 222wHP and 280ft/lbs @ 3850 RPM
TGPilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2005   #7
LightningGSX
Hellbound
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: St Paul
Posts: 1,390
Re: "Hacking the MAF??"

Most people have nothing but good things to say about the MAFT/GM MAF conversion.
__________________
-Nulli Secundus-
LightningGSX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2005   #8
john
Business as usual
 
john's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Isanti, MN
Drives: Dodge Viper and Honda Insight
Posts: 2,206
Re: "Hacking the MAF??"

Just go with a 2g MAS. I have had luck with hacking a 1g MAS two years ago when I was on the b16g and 550s. I had to hack the MAS because I would fuel cut at 20 psi pump gas. I was able to get 21 psi out of it with only 1 occasional count of knock. I would not do it if you do not have to though. If you are fuel cutting at a lower boost level, you most likely have boost leaks. James (ghettostyle) probly has a 2g MAS and plug he will sell ya. You would have to solder it in or destroy a MAS and make a plug and play connection. I am on a turbo capable of 400 hp and I have had no problems as of yet with my 2g MAS. I haven't had to hack it. BTW, I probly still have my hacked MAS if you do not want to ruin one. You do not need to hack one on a stock/near stock car.
__________________
97 Viper GTS
03 Mercedes CLK500 rollin on dubs...
john is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2005   #9
Shane@DBPerformance
formerly ecoli
 
Shane@DBPerformance's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
Send a message via AIM to Shane@DBPerformance
Re: "Hacking the MAF??"

Quote:
Originally Posted by TGPilot
Well that is two against...anyone else who had a "good" experience with the 1g hack?
Yes, it can work well, but it takes a lot of fiddling, tuning and only hacking out the correct amount. If you plan on making 450whp or less, then just throw on a stock 2G MAS, they work perfect and don't require much tuning. If you plan on making more than that, then a hacked 1G MAS can work, but if your at that power, you should probably just do a MAFT or speed density setup anyways. If you aren't experiencing MAF overrun now, then you can just stick with your current setup for the time being.
__________________
www.dbptuning.com
Shane@DBPerformance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2005   #10
TGPilot
 
TGPilot's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 63
Send a message via AIM to TGPilot
Re: "Hacking the MAF??"

This is what I have on the car now...not much but a good start considering it came with the car and I paid $2000 for it...

A list of the current "mods":
16g Big Turbo
2g Throttle-boby
EVO III Exhaust manifold
Full 2.75" Exhaust (Downpipe through to exhaust)
K&N on stock snorkle and 1g MAF
Buschur Intercooler to throttle pipe
Manual Boost Controller
A/F Gauge & Boost on the pillar
ACT 2600 Clutch set
__________________
Showing N/A cars just how slow they are at 6000' above sea-level!

1990 Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo Coupe 222HP / 320ft.lbs @ 3700 RPM
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo STE 222wHP and 280ft/lbs @ 3850 RPM
TGPilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2005   #11
1QUICK4
Crash Course Racing
 
1QUICK4's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Skid Row
Drives: in circles
Posts: 2,623
Send a message via Yahoo to 1QUICK4
Re: "Hacking the MAF??"

If you hack your 1G MAS you will be able to run more boost without hitting fuel-cut, but your car will idle like poo.
__________________
What the fuck should I 4G6x swap?
1QUICK4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.