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Old 08-20-2010   #381
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Re: beaterX project thread

That piece looks awesome, their fab team is awesome I've heard good things about every single person back there.

I need a ride, you ever venture this way?

I'm not surprised you love that big dark pipe.
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Old 08-20-2010   #382
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Damn you X guys are whiners!
Yep, it takes one to know one.

Looks good btw.. moar powa!

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Old 08-20-2010   #383
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Damn you X guys are whiners!
You'd already broke all of those bolts loose with the stock turbo out of the car--that's pretty much cheating. Breaking the heat shield bolts loose for the first time from under the car isn't so much fun.
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Old 08-20-2010   #384
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MAP did that for free for me

Test fitting their downpipe ftw, lol.
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Old 08-20-2010   #385
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Test fitting their downpipe ftw, lol.
Why didn't you keep it once it was on there?
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Old 08-20-2010   #386
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Yea I'm just as big of a whiner as anyone, just joshin PB Blaster is teh magic souce!
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Old 08-20-2010   #387
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Why didn't you keep it once it was on there?
It wasn't pretty enough.
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Old 08-20-2010   #388
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Why didn't you keep it once it was on there?
A: bought the AMS one already.
B: Main reason I like AMS is cast and many other shops said they saw the biggest gains with theirs, whether or not is true, who knows, but it was trusted shops.

I kind of wish I would've known i was going to test fit it, probably would've gotten a good deal on it And could've had external dump...mmmmm.

Scheides, what day you going to DB? I want a ride next weekend at the cookout if there is time
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Old 08-20-2010   #389
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B: Main reason I like AMS is cast and many other shops said they saw the biggest gains with theirs, whether or not is true, who knows, but it was trusted shops.
Have further details?
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Scheides, what day you going to DB? I want a ride next weekend at the cookout if there is time
Thursday afternoon. Prolly no rides at the cookout, cops everywhere and I plan on actually checking out all the cars this year; I'm always dinking with cars or test driving MR's that aren't test-driveable or some shit. I wanna just enjoy the show this year. Rides at any other style meet or whenever else, fo sho!
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Have further details?
Not for this thread, lol, i clog enough threads, take it to mine if you want and I will try to look for some stuff.

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Thursday afternoon. Prolly no rides at the cookout, cops everywhere and I plan on actually checking out all the cars this year; I'm always dinking with cars or test driving MR's that aren't test-driveable or some shit. I wanna just enjoy the show this year. Rides at any other style meet or whenever else, fo sho!
Sweet, yea I will hit ya up at a wednesday meet or something
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Old 08-26-2010   #392
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Dyno numbers on the BBX!

Got the new setup tuned today! As usual, Shane couldn't push timing much as beaterX is kinda a bitch and/or we just don't have very awesome pump gas around here. Shane said that the car *loved* timing in that it would make decent gains for every degree added but it wasn't always liking it. We ended up running only about 13°*up top, really a lot less than I expected, but the car feels fantastic now.

It rolled in at 321whp @27psi tapering to 25-25.5 and left with 346 @ 28 tapering to 26 and a crap-load more midrange than it came in with. More on that in a sec.

Dyno Dynamics numbers, 1.0CF:


Shootout/Dynojet numbers:


28psi peak, tapering to 26. Here's where a BCS might help a bit up top, but my FMIC is overtaxed as it is, so meh. Both Bryan@GST Motorsports and Chad@CBRD said that every psi over 25 yields great great gains on this turbo and that 28 is a great target for pump gas.


Nice and rich to help prevent knock


Here's the best! When I first bolted this thing on, it was at or below the torque of my stock turbo. NOW with the tuning love from DB Performance, I went from 282wtq on the stock turbo to 311wtq with the BBX! Granted, I also have the MAP o2 elim downpipe on the car now as well but it really doesn't matter, the new setup lost some spool but I'm up torque and power bigtime!

+68whp/+29wtq


Lost about 800rpm of spool, but this turbo is rated at 58lbs/min. Seeing 25psi by 3900rpm is pretty damn good imho.


I'm extremely happy with the new setup! So smooth, decent power, and should be very reliable. Time to go to the track and see if I can get this bish into the 12's! I've got 2000 miles on the ACT 6-puck and 1000 miles on the BBX already; I'm ready to just keep driving this thing and keep having fun!
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Old 08-26-2010   #393
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Awesome, great numbers for pump gas! I think that is right about where I saw an FPred on an X hit for pump gas on Shanes dyno.

Bet it feels great, congrats Scheides!
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Old 08-26-2010   #394
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Re: beaterX project thread

Looks awesome man! How close is tephra to figuring our X map-switching? Maybe try out an alternate map for E85?

If these are anything like the IX's, I bet some cams would really wake up that turbo, both spool-wise and power-wise.
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Old 08-26-2010   #395
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How close is tephra to figuring our X map-switching?
Done! The first rev of the Tephra ROM is out. KnockCEL is awesome and map switching can be done using the gas pedal or cruise control. NLTS will be a big breakthrough, whenever it happens.

Hell, I can't wait to have Shane do PSI-based boost control instead of load. Tephra is teh man.

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If these are anything like the IX's, I bet some cams would really wake up that turbo, both spool-wise and power-wise.
That's one of those areas where there hasn't been enough testing just yet. You can't just tell people to buy FP4Rs and call it a day.

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Old 08-26-2010   #396
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Done! The first rev of the Tephra ROM is out. ...

That's one of those areas where there hasn't been enough testing just yet. You can't just tell people to buy FP4Rs and call it a day.

Yuppers, goodhart I'm actually a beta tester for Tephra, but its been out for months now Def need NLTS, I miss it

Lomker I gotta check out your car sometime (or murlo's whenever it runs again) and check out the cam situation. Not in the near future for my car but the gains some people are posting up on the national boards are awfully enticing

I'm planning on doing an exhaust manifold next, but after that its a crossroads. High-octane mods, or efficiency mods (and more pump gas). Either way I'm hitting 4.9v on the stock maf housing @7500rpm and the dw800's I got from you are going to be quickly maxed unless I go alky, so yea. I kinda have the evoX equivelant (in my mind) to the old 1G DSM w/ 2G MAF, 550s, and 16g combo.
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Old 08-26-2010   #397
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Re: beaterX project thread

What a solid set up. It's such a smooth powerful ride it's mind blowing. Thanks again for the ride and letting me stick around and hang out!
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Old 08-26-2010   #398
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It was fun man! Thanks for comign along on the test drive, always nice to have a spotter!
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Old 08-26-2010   #399
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amazing numbers. looks like one heck of a ride! I can definitely see 12s!
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Congrats, looks like a fun ride.
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