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I just thought I would post up a quick pic for anyone looking to see what the visual differance is in the 2 turbo Gaskets.
The bottom gasket is the stock gasket. The top is the 7cm gasket.
Mitsu part # - MD171220 and MSRP = $22.73 + tax
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02-08-2004
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Which means if you have any port work done, as in taking out the ring on the turbo, or exhaust manifold, it is a waste of your time to put the 6cm gasket back in.
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how much did you say these are?
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02-09-2004
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part # and price added.
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02-09-2004
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Looks to be about 1 cm difference to me 
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Originally posted by 92tsiawd84@Feb 9 2004, 10:29 AM
Looks to be about 1 cm difference to me
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And to think I thought it was an inch. LOL Yeah, I figued we have one, wh not post a pick so people can actually see a differance. And right now through Mitsu they are 3-4 weeks out for getting them.
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Yeah, thanks for telling me they had them (Mike). They ordered 2 in and I picked up the last one two weeks ago. He said they had them on order though.
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I was holding the 2nd one in my hands just a few min ago. LOL
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03-14-2004
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will that gasket fit my evolution and will i find any gains from it?
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03-14-2004
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Originally posted by a-lo@Mar 14 2004, 05:01 PM
will that gasket fit my evolution and will i find any gains from it?
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I would imagine your turbine gasket is already at least 7cm, and more than likely a different shape(since you have the twin scroll setup).
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The EVO's have a slightly more retarded gasket than the DSM's do...but a nice 7cm gasket will give you a nice gain. Your stock gasket is basically a restrictor plate with 2 holes in it to allow the exhaust flow. I believe all EVO-certified Mitsu tech's were briefed on this so maybe 1quick4 will know more about it. I have heard if you remove it the warranty will get voided...but then again going to the grocery store will have the same end result.
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I agree with Kracka.
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03-17-2004
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Originally posted by TalonTSiDude@Mar 17 2004, 12:49 AM
The EVO's have a slightly more retarded gasket than the DSM's do...but a nice 7cm gasket will give you a nice gain. Your stock gasket is basically a restrictor plate with 2 holes in it to allow the exhaust flow. I believe all EVO-certified Mitsu tech's were briefed on this so maybe 1quick4 will know more about it. I have heard if you remove it the warranty will get voided...but then again going to the grocery store will have the same end result.
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Only if they 'catch' you driving to the grocery store on tape and review it with the board of directors.
Is your sig floppy head?
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Originally posted by niterydr@Mar 17 2004, 01:58 AM
Only if they 'catch' you driving to the grocery store on tape and review it with the board of directors.
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1) Quite true!
2) Nope.
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I agree with Kracka.
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Quote:
Originally posted by TalonTSiDude@Mar 17 2004, 12:49 AM
The EVO's have a slightly more retarded gasket than the DSM's do...but a nice 7cm gasket will give you a nice gain. Your stock gasket is basically a restrictor plate with 2 holes in it to allow the exhaust flow. I believe all EVO-certified Mitsu tech's were briefed on this so maybe 1quick4 will know more about it. I have heard if you remove it the warranty will get voided...but then again going to the grocery store will have the same end result.
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IIRC the Evo8 has the equivalent of a 9.8cm gasket, and switching to a non-twin scroll gasket will kill the spoolup(add a shitload of lag).The idea of a twin scroll setup is to keep cylinders 1 and 4, and 2 and 3 exhaust pulses separated all the way to the turbine wheel, preventing them from meeting in the manifold out of phase.This allows the Evo to have a larger turbine housing and better spool than normal setups.
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From what I had read the EVO8 gasket was sized the same at the 7cm, I appologize for this information. Anyone here looked at the collector on the EVO8 manifold? I would like to see how it looks.
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I agree with Kracka.
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03-17-2004
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thanks
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Re: 6cm Vs 7cm Gasket Comparison.
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Originally Posted by LightningGSX
IIRC the Evo8 has the equivalent of a 9.8cm gasket, and switching to a non-twin scroll gasket will kill the spoolup(add a shitload of lag).The idea of a twin scroll setup is to keep cylinders 1 and 4, and 2 and 3 exhaust pulses separated all the way to the turbine wheel, preventing them from meeting in the manifold out of phase.This allows the Evo to have a larger turbine housing and better spool than normal setups.
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how can i get this to work on a dsm?
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02-25-2006
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Re: 6cm Vs 7cm Gasket Comparison.
You want to put a twin scroll setup on your DSM? I'd say that is an absolute waste of time. I don't even know anyone who makes twin scroll manifolds for our cars. Well, I think there were some t4 twin scroll manifolds i THINK, but I'm assuming that's not what you are looking for. If you want some stupid fast spool, just go with a ballbearing turbo. You'd probably have to make your own custom manifold to go twinscroll, plus try and find an aftermarket turbo with twinscroll designed into the exhaust housing which I doubt there are as many of those floating around as there are regular dsm aftermarket turbos.
Don't get me wrong, I loved how my buddies turbo spooled up on his evo. I think the twin scroll is an awesome design. But I think the money you'd be paying to get someone to design you a manifold for this on your car, and then spending the money on a new turbo with this design in it. I think that would be a complete waste of your money.
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02-25-2006
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Re: 6cm Vs 7cm Gasket Comparison.
you are probably right, i just want a quicker spool.
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02-26-2006
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Re: 6cm Vs 7cm Gasket Comparison.
I know one or two people have put the twin scroll Evo 8 turbos onto a DSM. I don't think it is worth all the effort though. I run a divided T4 exhaust manifold that can be used with divided or undivided T4 exhaust housings.
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