Crank But No Start

mark4g63t · 04-02-2014

Hey guy's so I had sold that 98 Eclipse RS and the guy came to pick it up today and it has a crank but no start symptom.

I HAVE CHECKED:
Power at pump...There is none.
Ground at pump and it has ground.
Jumped the fuel pump with a battery and it works fine.
Power at the relay and it has power to everything but the fuel pump wire (black W/ blue stripe) Have tried 2 new relays with same results
I have jumped the relay from the voltage source going to the relay that has power to the fuel pump wire (B/BL) and it activated the pump fine.
Checked for power at the ASD relay and it gets power, Also replaced this relay at the same time as the Fuel pump relay.

It did pop the main engine fuse and would pop it immediately upon inserting a new one so I thought short somewhere or the computer kicked it out. Unplugged the batt. for 10 mins and hooked it back up to rule out computer and it hasn't popped the fuse yet.

I also noticed that the check engine light doesn't come on at all when turning the key from off to the on or start position (no flashing) Any thoughts on this? Was told that it means the computer is bad.

mark4g63t · 04-02-2014

Here's what I know: Key on

ASD Relay:
B/R going to ASD relay has no power
R/B leaving ASD has power
B/W leaving ASD has power
R/W from ASD to PCM has power

Fuel Pump Relay:
R/B has power
B/W has power
W/R has power
B/BL to fuel pump has no power

Ihearrtdsm · 04-02-2014

I have a 99 5 speed ecu you can borrow to test to see if that solves the problem. I'll send you a pm with my number.

mark4g63t · 04-02-2014

Well swapped ECUs and still same problem. Check engine light flashed once before I heard the fuse main engine fuse pop again. It's getting shorted somewhere.

TkrPerformance · 04-02-2014

Start checking the starter wiring and all the other wiring by the fuse box.

mark4g63t · 04-02-2014

Alight so I noticed something, not sure if they are connected or not but the main fuse wont pop until I put the ignition switch fuse in. Once both are in it pops the main one.

dsmreck · 04-02-2014

my last no start i had the crank trigger on the wrong way lol, hope its something simple for you bud

dsmghost · 04-03-2014

Start disconnecting components on those circuits individually until you can put a fuse in without it popping.

mark4g63t · 04-03-2014

Well I gave up out of frustration with the guy stopping by every 2 hours to see if it was finished or not. Sent it to goodyear and they called back after 3 hours and said it was a mess and couldn't find the problem and claimed it to be "done for". So looks like I will be towing it back to my house and ripping it all apart/ taking the remote start and security system that was hacked together out.

polishmafia · 04-03-2014

Which Goodyear? The guys at my old shop don't just give up. There is always a way to fix a car.

TkrPerformance · 04-03-2014

If it has a aftermarket alarm just take it all out and fix the wiring back to stock. Very likely to be the problem. the immobilizer in the alarm is not letting it start.

mark4g63t · 04-04-2014

Goodyear in Chanhassen, I don't blame them for not wanting to even try to tackle this job.
Yes, I immediately thought it had something to do with the addition of the remote start/alarm once I saw how it was installed.

Fran05 · 04-04-2014

Maybe thats why you should NOT try a sell a hacked up pos bucket of a car for $2500 to unsuspecting people. Will save you some time and effort later, you know.

mark4g63t · 04-04-2014

Ran fine on the test drive at 11:30.. didn't start that same day at 4:00.. has started every time and drove fine every day of the past week i've had it..and fine for the previous owner whom I knew and knew drove it, but it's cool, being a dick doesn't get you anywhere or help the situation. Thanks tho.

I still have people wanting to take it as is and will tow it away.

dsmghost · 04-04-2014

Any news? How much are you paying for diagnostics at Goodyear? Where are you located? If not too far from me I can properly diagnose your car.

mark4g63t · 04-04-2014

was $100 for an hour.
I'm in EP. Will be towing the car back to my place and taking the remote start/ security system out and going from there.

dsmreck · 04-09-2014

I had an issue with my viper after my dyno appt last year. The batteries fixed the problem though.

mark4g63t · 04-09-2014

Started taking everything for the system out to convert back to original. Still not getting spark or fuel.

dsmreck · 04-09-2014

crank sensor or cam sensor?

mark4g63t · 04-10-2014

Going to be checking those today.