06-22-2006
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Smells Like Fish
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maple Grove
Drives: 96GSX
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Turbo selection question.
We have a 2.4L with 8.8 pistons crower L2 cams+springs
I need suggestions on what turbo to get.
This car needs to spool quickly. It's going to be a daily driver, BUT i would also like something that can get 400+ AWHP. So maybe a turbo rated to 500HP?
Another thing is what type of manifold to get? we have a stock 1G one now, so its gotta go.
We also have to decide on which way to swing here: mitsu? T3/T4? One of those SBR Evo3 manifolds look pretty cool.
Imagine that you are starting from square one, which way should i go? And also, we dont want to get really pricy: maybe a 50 trim or a 60 trim. Those should spool prettty quickly on a 2.4. What do you think? I'm pretty sure that we dont need ball bearing and thats way expensive too.
Thanks
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06-22-2006
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Reynolds number user
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: grove/tempe
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Re: Turbo selection question.
use.....more...ellipses...please........
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06-22-2006
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
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Re: Turbo selection question.
What do you consider fast spooling? My 50trim hits 18psi at around 4k. I love the turbo, but really don't think I'll ever want anything laggier.
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06-22-2006
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Smells Like Fish
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maple Grove
Drives: 96GSX
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Re: Turbo selection question.
We(collectively) are used to 14b/16g series of turbos, we like how the respond to RPMs.
We also understand that we are going to have some lag if we want high HP, we just want to have the least culture shock of lag as possible....if you get my drift
drift....what a dirty word after FF3
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06-22-2006
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Finally Tuned...
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zimmerman
Drives: Spyder GSX
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Re: Turbo selection question.
I have the Big evo III 16g ported and polished. I like it alot and its very affordable. It also is rated at or around 400 hp.
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06-22-2006
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Smells Like Fish
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maple Grove
Drives: 96GSX
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Re: Turbo selection question.
I fully understand the affordability and the performance possibilities of the evo3.
Thanks for your vote, but if nobody can suggest anything we are thinking 50, 54, or 57 trim so far
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06-22-2006
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: I wish somewhere less rainy!
Drives: She is 22, black, slow and does not play fair.
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Re: Turbo selection question.
50 trim is a good place to start.
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06-22-2006
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Totenritt
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Gardner, KS
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Re: Turbo selection question.
With a 8.8 2.4L you are going to spool things very quick. CVD's 2.3 with a 50 trim felt like a 14b. He could pass in 5th gear. I vote you look into the turbo sale that is going on at PTE.
SCM61
The other thing I have to say is that you are talking about comp wheels like they matter in "spool". The truth is; not so much. You should be asking about what turbine housing to use. Anything with a T3 .63 turbine housing will spool very fast.
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06-22-2006
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flips McGee
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Re: Turbo selection question.
400whp on pump gas? Race gas? Pump/alky?
I say go big or go home, something with a 61mm compressor on it, SCM61 or similar. 50-trim will spool very very nice for ya with the 2.4 though.
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06-23-2006
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At-Least-It's-White-Again
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Re: Turbo selection question.
74mm turbo. No other way.
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06-23-2006
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Big Turbo Monster
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hopkins
Drives: GTS and E55
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Re: Turbo selection question.
I have a SBR G60 60 trim that spools in the 4000 range that I might be willing to sell. I also have a SBR cast manifold as well.
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06-23-2006
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11 Seconds to Freedom
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: U of M
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Re: Turbo selection question.
I've heard some "bad" things about 54 and 57 trims. Not really bad things, just that 50 or 60 trims are better choices. I would say go for an SBR 50 trim or slowbubblecar's 60 trim. Either way you will be making some decent power. I too have a extra manifold, its an unported uncracked 2g manifold. If you want it, shoot me a PM.
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06-23-2006
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Is funding Exxon.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ham Lake
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Re: Turbo selection question.
Toss a 50 trim on it and you will be happy. I have the SCM61 on my car. It is still very streetable, but not a comparison to a 16g.
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06-23-2006
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
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Re: Turbo selection question.
400awhp on race or pump gas? It sounds like you are looking for something that will have some throttle response, so something like a 50-trim or GT30R would work. But it would be hard to make 400awhp without something in the 61mm size range on pump gas. The ball-bearing versions of the 50-trim aren't too expensive. The Mitsu exhaust housing versions will spool faster, but give up some HP. The Mitsu housings work fairly good on the 50-trim, they get a bit too small and restrictive when you start getting into 61mm turbos.
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06-23-2006
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Is funding Exxon.
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Turbo selection question.
If you want a full t3/t4 setup, I have that brand new setup that is on the white race car at my place. It will be off this weekend as the car is being parted out this weekend.
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06-24-2006
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 10
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Re: Turbo selection question.
Some buddies and I just bolted up my FP3052 tonight.
That's what I'd get if I were you.
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06-24-2006
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Admin
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Sportsman's Paradise, LA.
Posts: 5,382
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Re: Turbo selection question.
FP3052 all the way, you won't regret it.
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06-24-2006
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Big Turbo Monster
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hopkins
Drives: GTS and E55
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Re: Turbo selection question.
The turbo, manifold, FMIC and 02 housing setup on my 90 I have listed for sale I could sell.
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Life's tough.... it's even tougher if you're stupid.
7/25/09
Motorcycle cop pulls up next to me on UNI and says "Want to race?"
Me- "I don't think you would stand a chance."
Cop says "probably not" and drives off.
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06-24-2006
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
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Re: Turbo selection question.
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